Reasons you will hate me

The insufferable little shit.

One of the biggest con-jobs of recent years has been this reactionary posturing that Australian history has been held captive by a fifth column. Leading the charge has been our prick of a PM, advised by grubby prejudiced little Empire Men like Geoffrey Blainey.

Australian history is what it is. The facts simply can't be glossed over. This nation was founded in the most bizarre circumstances of any country I can think of in recent times. Up until the discovery of gold, it was a fractuous mix of penal colonies (some of gulag-like depravity) and assigned labour settlements. It also resulted in the effective end of one of the world's longest surviving cluster of cultures. This isn't passing value judgment. It's what happened. To tell it any differently is just to lie.

And who the fuck doubts or denies that there are achievements in Australian history!? Who is saying this? In amongst the sadism, the depravation, the corruption, the buggery and the violence, there was courage, compassion and the building of a unique identity. A country that, against many odds, succeeded in emerging as its own. But to concentrate on the rumpty-tum, hale and harty stuff that Howard seems to want as the foundation stone of Australian history is just fucking juvenile.

He doesn't want history taught, he wants hagiography. Yet again he has proven to be a disgusting little suburban cultural terrorist.

ugh, some days he just makes me sick.

I think I was hallucinating this morning because I read that the PM was looking for a "coalition of the willing" to teach his new, matey blokey blue mountainy history lessons.

He didn't say that did he?

Invasion day?

More like 'enlightenment day,' or 'civilisation day'...

or 'modern medecine day'
'wheel day'
etc etc

Am I dreaming this, or did Howard also express concern that not enough people had been charged for revenge attacks, post-Cronulla?

From the Age:

Mr Howard said that while on Australia Day we should celebrate our diversity we should also affirm the "one people, one destiny" sentiment that propelled Federation.

Is he, in a roundabout way, just referring to the White Australia Policy "that propelled Federation"?

God, he's a creepy little fucker.

Anonymous said...
Invasion day?

More like 'enlightenment day,' or 'civilisation day'...

or 'modern medecine day'
'wheel day'
etc etc

That's "medicine", you juvenile fuckstain.

Or should I just call you Andrew Bolt?

"Invasion Day"?

What that second anonymous dude said. Apart from the abysmal spelling mistake, of course, 'cos nobody makes spelling mistakes apart from "juvenile fuckstains".

Mind you, being able to spell doesn't stop YOU from being a sneering, superior cunt, does it, Dogfucker?

Plenty of people make spelling mistakes who aren't juvenile fuckstains.
That title normally applies to ignorant white supremacist fuckwits.
I think it's just as much a case of content as it is of style here, fyodor.

just wanting to distance myself from the other anonymouses.

LOL 'enlightenment day'.

what part of invasion don't you understand? the part where the british settled in an inhabited country? it'd be pretty funny if i came and forced you out of your house. what if i was way, WAY smarter than you? would it be okay then?

i'm all for the enlightenment, wheels and so on, but it's a bit shit to suggest these things should be forced on people who didn't ask for them.

ps i bet you're a pretty big cockhead.

"it's a bit shit to suggest these things should be forced on people who didn't ask for them"

I think that is a great point. Until humans as a race learn to respect the beauty that is diversity of culture, and as individuals learn to respect the differences that are inherent in one another, we're just going to keep trucking on this highway to self-destruction.

Civilisation Day is a laugh. Rome was a civilisation, as was Egypt. Both of these civilisations were basically based upon conquest and assimilation. Ramming their way of life down the throats of anyone who got in their way. Eventually cracks appear in that system.

oh, and speaking of ramming something in your crack...

Dangerous Dave
said...

The quicker we become a republic, and then celebrate that day as Australia day, the better. It is saddening that this is a day of mourning for some, and celebration for others.

I've got news for Howard. What he describes as 'the culture wars' are far from over, and certainly far from being won. Culture is ever-evolving, and history is certainly not a fixed, linear narrative with only one outcome and one point of view.

Our PM did indeed call for a 'coalition of the willing' to help resurrect the teaching of history in Australia, first anonymous. You weren't hallucinating.

I studied history up until Year 11 back in the 80's. When I was in Year 9, because I was doing so well in history, I was invited to take part in a special cross-campus history camp involving students from about eight different schools in Gippsland and the Latrobe Valley.

It was at this camp that I first heard about massacres of indigenous Australians by white settlers. I still remember the shock I felt at learning this: as if this were some secret knowledge that we had been priviledged with, and that we were supposed to help keep it a secret. Christ.

I'm going to write about this more on my own blog, but I am really looking forward to seeing how Howard is remembered in the history books. The single-most culturally divisive Prime Minister since Federation, perhaps?

Fyodor said...
"Invasion Day"?

What that second anonymous dude said. Apart from the abysmal spelling mistake, of course, 'cos nobody makes spelling mistakes apart from "juvenile fuckstains".

Mind you, being able to spell doesn't stop YOU from being a sneering, superior cunt, does it, Dogfucker?

Please, right wing cunt.

"Medecine" is one of those misfired spellings that should look incorrect even if you're concussed. It's a basic test of literacy. It's not as if he stuffed up "weltanschauung" (or indeed "hale and hearty", leaving out the "e" as I did before).

Anyway, it isn't just the fucking spelling that shows this maggot up for what he is. Anyone with a basic knowledge of the years following the arrival of the First Fleet would know what a starvation wracked disaster it was. It was hardly a Boy's Own Annual tale of the superior white man showing the benighted savage how to tame a hostile land. The settlement was close to ruin, situated in a place where people had lived successfully for tens of thousands of years. The only thing that saved them was the arrival of the Second Fleet.

Now, before you jump up and down like the effervescent fuckwit right winger you are, these are just facts. And they make you and the obviously underinformed cunt who wrote the "civilisation" comment look like utter morons in context.

Did the colony eventually bed down and flourish? Of course it did. As I've said, it's impossible to deny it. But to be so idiotically simplistic as to paint it as the Mighty Hand of Progress gently sweeping away Our Dusky Brethren is just plain fucking stupid.

Now, go and jerk off to your Pauline Hanson vidcaps from "Dancing With The Stars". And wipe yourself off with a Don Bradman tea towel afterwards.

Just sent this to the age.
Hope they print it.

John Howard wants important dates to be learnt in school, and said he is looking for a "coalition of the willing" to teach history. I'll start. March 20, 2003. On that day, Howard's last "coalition of the willing" invaded Iraq for non-existent WMDs creating a humanitarian disaster that show no signs of ending in the future.
Happy now John?

If John Howard really wanted the kids to be able to be proud of their country, he'd resign. Like, pronto.

xoxo nora

Please suck me off, left wing cunt.

If I had asked for an history lesson from our Perpetually Moaning of the Bleeding Heart I would have left an invitation at the end of my "Fuck you very much, Canine Commando".

Facts are, we (that includes you, you insufferably pompous little shit) are merely the latest and greatest invaders of this fair country. You may prefer to wallow in the guilt of centuries past, but I - and pretty much the rest of Australia without over-developed ideological axes to grind - would prefer to enjoy the Australia of today, on our national day of celebration.

I will give you snaps for the Pauline Hanson association, but. It takes real sophistication to draw a racist slur that subtly. At least you made the pretence at an intellectual argument with me, unlike your disgustingly unprovoked earlier foray.

Effervescently yours,

Fyodor "The Don" Bazarov

You may prefer to wallow in the guilt of centuries past, but I - and pretty much the rest of Australia without over-developed ideological axes to grind - would prefer to enjoy the Australia of today, on our national day of celebration.

It's not about guilt, you presumptive twit.

It's about a complete rendition of history -- good and bad -- rather than selected highlights of explorers, sportsmen and the right types of soldiers.

This is a young country. You can barely understand today if you don't understand yesterday. Culture doesn't happen by accident -- it is built on from what has gone before. You can choose to ignore the past, but you should then also choose to keep your fucking trap shut when it comes to what is and isn't germane to the present.

John Howard is evidently wrong that the debate about national identity is over. I dunno about "divisive" and "phoney", but it sure looks like a pissing contest.

Which is unfortunate. There's a lot to consider about what it means to be Australian, and what it means to share this land; and that the Prime Minister doesn't realise more Australians are thinking about this now than ever before is disturbing.

We'll get to the heart of it eventually -- we will because enough people want to -- irrespective of a deaf and blind national leader, or dogs, or angry cossacks.

"Latest and greatest invaders"

Really? Us? There was no one here when the ancestors of Indigenous Australians got here. That's not an invasion, that's called settlement. This was a time when Asia was still in the stone age, as was Europe, Africa and the Americas. Over the next 40-50,000 years, a cultural evolution took place in Europe, Asia, Africa and South America, which for the most part relied on exchange of information between different cultures. Australia was excluded form this by what we now call the "Tyranny of Distance". The people here were isolated geographically, scattered from each other, and predominantly nomadic. Pretty hard to have any kind of cultural exchange with them.

If anyone had offered them pieces of new technology, perhaps in exchange for skills or information they possessed, I am sure they would have kept up with the rest of the world in that regard. To suddenly plunge an effectively stone-age society into the "modern world" of the late eighteenth century, and enforce it's morals and standards on a people who did not understand them is quite plainly barbaric.

Let us hope some greater culture comes and helps us be better people by forcing their lifestyle on to us. I can only think of one country with even a passing interest in Australia who has superior firepower and a larger army. Can you speak Indonesian, Fyodor?

"but I - and pretty much the rest of Australia without over-developed ideological axes to grind - would prefer to enjoy the Australia of today, on our national day of celebration."

the Australia of today... the vast areas destroyed by salinity.. the mandatory detention of refugees INCLUDING children.. the huge number of species now listed as endangered... the continuing destruction of old-growth forests across the continent... the third world health conditions suffered by the indigineous people of this land... a member of the 'coalition of the willing' in which we aid one of the most pig-headed and moronic leaders of our time...

What, in particular, is it that you are enjoying, Fyodor?

For the anonymous moron who posted "wheel day":

I'm curious as to how you and the Ruddock you're parroting really imagine it is possible to invent wheels on a continent lacking any large animal capable of being tamed to pull them?

Wheels never started out as nice light spoked things that could be used in rickshaws pulled by humans, you know. They started as a way to move heavy objects by sliding them on top of beds of rolling logs, with the heavy things being pulled by oxen. Eventually someone worked out improvements regarding circular crossections of the logs, hubs and axles, someone else a while later figured out rims and spokes, etc.

Without large domesticated draft animals to pull stuff over rolling logs, it is impossible to independently invent the wheel, no matter how naturally brilliant one may be. To sneer at indigenous Australians for not inventing the wheel is thus simultaneously an exact illustration and an indictment of the type of superfical triumphalist history the PM promotes.

Dear Tigtog

That comment was so anthropologically awesome I think I might have shat my pants - quite an acheivement as they are in a Drawer.

Kind regards,
IOYC Ain't No Party Like an S-Club Party

Wow, the intellects displayed here are truly impressive.
Does horrid language make the point more reliable, or this some sort of ritual for those in the know.. We should all be told..

In amongst the grubby subneanderthal epithets there appear to be some nuggets of wisdom.
When ever a rapacious race with a mandate from where ever, came upon an obviously tecnologically inferior one, the result was inevitable. That is more or less coded in us for long term survival of our particular tribe. It really doesn't matter whether the victims had some quaint folk fables or a lot of secret persons business, or (as in the case of the earlier Europeans in the US) help the invaders to actually survive..
Their destruction was pretty much assured from the moment of contact.. As would ours as a species be if a) interstellar travel was actually feasible and b) we were found to be tasty by those who could use it..
That was then.
Nowadays we have the luxury of being able to recognise how important is an awareness of other people and their beliefs and customs etc .. assuming that is that we do not feel threatened by them in anyway.
For all his sanctimonious clap trap, can you imagine the Rodent really trying to understand what drives an Iraqi "terrorist" to defend his home against our misbegotten invasion, of a member of Hamas blowing him/herself up amongst his/her perceived oppressors..
We will understand and admire people as long as they are seen to be inferior to us in most ways (cute folklore, quaint customs and interesting medical practices apart)..
However, to the point of this post and long reply..
I can't imagine The Rodent wanting the warts to be shown. It would only bring to mind the absolutely dreadful record of him and his chums. No doubt Revisionists and Excusors (new job for Andrew Dolt??) will be in strong demand.
PS.. my dog.. I think you should put your dog down, it obviously has a terminal case of Tourette,s Disease.

Swearing is fun. Plopmuncher.

*titters*

See?

Plonk:-

Nowhere have I ever disputed that there wasn't a sort of mechanical inevitability to what happened on this continent.

Also, I'm not being misty-eyed about some sort of Arcadian paradise here before white arrival. And yes, the sensibilities of Georgian adventurers would not take the view we (or at least the less brutish of us) take today as the way to behave towards another culture. I'd even point out that the standing orders of the First Fleet were to try to accomodate "the Indians" as much as possible, and not to antogonise them. There was no policy of genocide. However, stuff like La Perouse's pot shots, smallpox and the inevitable friction of competing interests started off the decline. The rest is history, except, of course, for our revisionist in the Lodge.

As for my dog and his compulsion to make me say cunt, I find reprehensible lunar right views about a billion times more offensive. You should too.

Ha Ha... Truly Cute..
Agreed.
Watch that mutt tho..

I really enjoy your blog. Its great fun. The polichicks link was especially handy - what cool stuff!

Should I get my hair cut at the barber that has an 80's era poster of Corey Haim on the wall as cutting example?

The link to that David Tiley post is http://dox.media2.org/barista/archives/2004_11.html#001309

Ms Fits, how do you know if you should stay with someone or leave them? How do you know if the person you are with is a stayer or a just-here-for-now type?

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