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Friday q and a #60.




Oh look, Friday questions are suddenly as old as my dad. I feel a bit that age today too; a geriatric wee girlchild in knee-high socks. I wish I was strolling the corridors of the Abbotsford convent and eating soy products.


Also: There's not a chance in hell I'll finish these questions by COB today. Consider yourself told that there'll be a Saturday instalment and there's nothing you or those pen pushers up at City Hall can do about it.


catbrain said...
Good afternoon, gorgeous (for I think that you are - is that too familiar?)

Can you think of a good mnemonic to remember the definition of 'verisimilitude'? Every time I encounter it I've forgotten what it means... I look it up again and think, "oh yes - of course - I'll remember that next time" and I promptly forget. It's like I have a blind spot and it's really starting to shit me. Any suggestions?



I guess there's really no 'too familiar' given the amount of horrifically personal information I share about myself on this here blog, catbrain. What's mine is yours and you are free to call me whatever you wish.

In saying that may I state that 'gorgeous' is one of my most favouritest things to be called in the world, particularly over the phone.


With regard to your mnemonic, how about 'Very Similar To 'De' Truth'? You can have that one for free, you know. I don't charge for my mnemonics.


Man's gotta do said...
How do I make it stop hurting?

How am I supposed to react to someone who tells me my behaviour is not acceptable, but would think badly of me should I behave any differently?

I thought virtue was it's own reward, but I seem to be punished for doing the right thing.

Ah confusion, welcome back.



I don't know how to make it stop hurting, Man's Gotta Do. I guess the usual soul soothers of tears and gin and baths work to ease the initial breathtaking open wound-type pain. Then you have to sit back and let Father Time creak his archaic way through the mire which is a long and tedious exercise that I have little patience for I must say.


It's hard to really pass an opinion on your 'someone' without knowing more specific details of your behaviour (hit and run accident? Citizen's arrest?), but by the sounds of things the source of your frustration may have previously decided that they were cross with you and have been unable to express it and are therefore using confusing semantics to skirt around the issue. I'm sorry, it sounds awful. Probably best you come over to my place for a bath; I run a fucking killer tub.


Anonymous said...
divine ms fitsalicious,

mention of Comedy Festival brings to mind those reader revelations a few months back about shenanigans with Daniel Kitson last year. i've seen previews of his new show in London recently and my general adoration of the man took a knock.

as i think you said at the time, he's a free and beautiful soul who can do as he pleases. except now the naked Scrabble opponents are said to be 'meaningless' and, at one show, 'despicable sluts'. hmmm. onstage persona, fair enough. i hope. though am inclined to opine "think it, don't say it, especially not on stage you cad".

so my questions are...

i) would any of the ladies in question feel as terrible on hearing this as i imagine they would?

ii) does this diminish the DK genius?

iii) are you / is anyone planning any rudies with visiting comedians this year? i'd consider doing my bit, but am overseas.

admiringly yours.



Hm. This is a rather tricky one to address as I enjoy infrequent contact with Mr. Kitson (I do hope he hasn't said anything nasty about me onstage as I am charm itself and my soul bruises easily) and still find him fourteen and a half parts of lovely and would prefer to have a meal with him when he gets here without the fear of being slapped across the face with a glove mid-entree. So. With full disclosure I will do my best.


i) I'm sure some of them would object, Anon. And yes, Kitson's onstage persona is far removed from the rather gentle soul 'behind the laughter'. I usually find shocking personal insults from those I am close to a verbally sweet way of pulling at my pigtails, but you really have to understand someone well to know if they can take it like 'a man', as it were.


ii) No.


iii) I haven't yet had a look at who's coming. Is there anyone suitably off-the-cuff/adorable/available? Dylan Moran is married, sadly.


p.s. Yes, probably.



richardwatts said...
This week's question: that first, magical-or-possibly-hungover morning you woke in your Valensi new abobe: what was the first sound you heard as you lay there, and the first thought that floated into your mind?

If you say 'traffic' and 'where the hell am i?' I shall declare there to be no poetry left in the world, and throw myself sobbing onto my bed. Or possibly pour myself another cup of warm sake. Or both.



Last Friday really was magical, richardwatts. The first thing I noticed when I opened my eyes was how dark and comforting my tiny bedroom was and that the distant hum of passing trucks and weaving alleyway drunks on their way to the Bendigo (10am opening, my liquor-soaked friends) served as a blesesed aural reminder that the world around me was nudging awake and it was possibly time for me to do the same. Is that poetic enough for you? I was certainly blissful when I climbed out of bed and walked to get a coffee in the searing AM heat, and all that was in my heart calmed for a second.



bec said...
Do you realise where Neighbours is heading?

ANOTHER lesbian storyline. I don't usually watch, but my gay tuned antenna must have been quivering, as i tuned in at the moment of the lesbionic kiss.

Anyway, i promptly went to the neighbours website to find out who these people were (as i haven't kept up with my neighbour-ing), and i found the title of that particular episode was:

Lets Be Friends.

Do you think the writers were intentionally trying to be funny?

Because that's funny.



1. I haven't watched Neighbours in AGES. I really should, particularly if they're getting into some racy-gracy sapphic loving which is fun for the whole family excepting Steve Fielding's 'First' family who don't much care for that type of thing.


I find it difficult to surpass the following when you're rating lady-on-lady kissings:






It's the hint of pink girl-tongue that really tips it over the edge, isn't it?




















*takes cold shower*













2. Yes. They are an amusing lot in there, mark my words.


audrey said...
Oh thankyou for calling a cease and desist on the interminable bevis questions. No offence bevis, but you have a wife and child. Tend to them man!



I didn't call a cease and desist at all. I merely warmly teased him for taking up such a massive amount of space on my Fridays and it was all done with milky kindness and if you're for a moment suggesting that Bevis is letting his parenting slip merely by typing witticisms to me then THINK AGAIN MY FRIEND.


BEVIS said...
Fine then.



Oh, Bevis. Please don't get sniffy. We need you around here.



Come home, do.


Joseph said...
A couple things. Firstly, regarding the word 'lesbionic'. I know a few women of this persuasion and one or two have even mentioned a passing interest in cybernetics. But certainly not in the context of their fondness for the fairer sex -- and what's more, none have yet, to my knowledge, you know, upgraded.

So with a pedant's eye to pruning away unsightly neologisms, let me tender the roughly equivalent word 'sapphic'.

Merely a suggestion, and I'm happy to be shouted down.

Secondly and unrelatedly, I first knew I had a problem when coming home drunk one night I purchased sfucken.com. 'That sfucken awesome!' I thought to myself.

Turns out there's not much you can do with a domain name like that, except perhaps to enshrine arbitrary exclamations for posterity. And the associated email address is a goddamn honeypot for spammers, fyi.

I've been letting some of my domain names lapse recently. It is sad, but for the best. (Amy is correct re polichicks though.)



And what is at all wrong with neologisms, I ask you? They are my bread and butter, young man. Lesbionic, lesbonic, lesbonix, lesbeans, lesbosuns - I shall create words as I see fit and it's up to you to decipher what the sam hill I'm on about or as god is your witness stop reading this jumble of nonsense immediately.


Some dashing fellow I know recently referred to women of the lesbrarian persuasion as 'Northcote Gents' which I think is absolutely wonderful, don't you?


de.foxus said...
not a question, just a share. in ragrds to this:
A nice moment from my first day in the hood.


Man on bike: Hey, nice tits!


Me: Thanks!


Man on bike: Can I play with them?


Me: No!


Man on bike: See ya!


Me: Bye!

***

i had a similar exchange walking down the street in neighbouring abbotsford as i was on my way to the bus stop -

man walking past: hey, do you want to go for a drink?

me: um, i'm a bit busy. thanks though.

him: how about a root then?

me: i have a boyfriend

him: don't worry, i won't tell him.

i walked away giggling.

actually, it *is* a question - do you think these kinds of exchanges actually lead to breast fondling and/or rooting? are there people who get laid on pure audacity?



I love that you and I find these particular saucy exchanges sweet and amusing rather than sexually predatory, de.foxus. What whimsical oddballs we must be.

I have asked more than one person this particular question (not about playing with their tits or having a root, the other one about whether such outrageous requests from strangers are ever met with a keen nod of affirmation and evening of wild sexings) and the general consensus seems to be in the world of 'no fucking way' although there are certainly a few folk out there with quirky pretzel smiles who suggest that should the questioner be of aesthetic liking then you only live once and isn't cheekiness a cunning virtue etc. Apparently some high-libidoed wag who used to work at the comedy club on Smith street would attempt to woo women with the 'fancy sitting on my penis?'-type in-your-face spiel and he had a 30 percent success rate. Which isn't bad going when you think about it.


mara said...
Somewhere, deep in the dizzying depths of your archive, I believe you made a passing reference to your initial impetus to blog. One reason was the incentive to simply write on a regular basis.

Looking back, how do you think blogging has affected your professional writing? Are you quicker? wittier? more confident? Also, do you think it has changed your conversation style? Has it quickened your wit? Perfected your verbal prowess? Just wondering.



Yes, it was certainly the lovely Lindsayism who opened my eyes to the world of women bloggers foisting their brains upon the world. Since then I've thoroughly enjoyed perfecting the craft of searching for something mildly amusing in the newspaper or MY TWISTED MIND and whittling it down to a palatable form for highly critical commenters to tear apart. As a professional writer (I'm allowed to say that as people give me money for typing, so go suck it) it's probably made me a little lazier - sitting down to write 1000+ solid words after sleepily bullet-pointing facts about Paul Keating comes as a bit of a shock to the system. The art of honing paragraphs to please an instant audience, however, is not to be sniffed at and quite an important rite of passage for an ageing scribe.

Whether my wit is quicker in conversation remains to be seen - possibly the endless supply of liquor doesn't help to keep it sharp.


alf said...

The other day I finished reading A Confederacy of Dunces. I was gobsmacked by the ending. I was certain that Ignatius was no more than a rude fool, and thus innocent, until in the final pages he CENSORED DUE TO LEGAL ADVICE. I was tickled when Ignatius implored his readership, "...can you name one good, practicing transvestite in the Senate?". Most tickled, in fact, by the idea of bearing said challenge to this Friday frisson. Devious, I. (Warning: I will be disappointed if the best you can come up with is Vanstone - too obvious by three fifths.)Anyway, I am planning to read The Adventures of Augie March soon and was wondering if you have read it and what you thought? If you don’t approve, I can always feed it to a guinea pig or a homeless person. No, I am really asking because I am quite cautious of supposed "classics." Like, have you read Ulysses? I heard it all makes sense if you read it at the pub, the implication being you need to be drunk. Are the Irish a race of inveterate inebriates? Is Ulysses really a good book? I read page 23 six times before abandoning it.I now have Vernon God Little too - on your recommendation - and it seems suitably fey so I will read that first. Please do hurry and start a religion, I promise faithfully to mock you.



1. The best practicing tranvestite in the Senate is Alexander Downer. Surely that should be obvious to everyone by now.




DOWNER: 'I would gladly kill a man for that Bvlgari clutch.'



2. I have not read The Adventures of Augie March, though if it spawned a musical tribute of such loveliness then it can only be a worthwhile delve. For god's sake, don't feed your unwanted books to guinea pigs. They are precious and should be obsessively held on to so everyone hates you when you have to move house.


3. I have not read Ulysses, though reading in pubs is one of my favourite things in the whole world so it sounds like I should add it to my ever-growing list.


4. The Irish are a fine upstanding people and I'll thank you not to imply otherwise. Some of my best friends are inveterate inebriates, you know.




fluffy said...
*NOT A FRIDAY QUESTION*

I think it's fair to say Alf's comment above contains spoilers and should be blanked appropriately for the Q&A, if you see fit(s). Not having actually finished Confederacy yet, it's rather a shame to now have a broad stroke idea of what transpires in the closing chapter. Thanks ever so much Alf.

x



As requested, darling Fluff. Apologies.


Though you might say I'm not as apologetic as our friend Alf and his cheeky thesaurus:


my thesaurus said...
I am abashed, apologetic, bashful, blushing, chagrined, compunctious, conscience-stricken, contrite, crestfallen, debased, demeaned, discomfited, disconcerted, distraught, distressed, embarrassed, flustered, guilty, hesitant, humble, humbled, humiliated, meek, mortified, muddled, penitent, regretful, reluctant, remorseful, repentant, shamed, shamefaced, sheepish, shy, sorry, stammering, stuttering and submissive.

alf



*applauds*


la nadine said...
has anybody ever forgotten about having sex with you?

if so, were you offended, or did you chalk it up to drunken blankness?

um...my friend madeline wanted me to ask.



I'm sure there are a few people out there who would like to forget about having sex with me and possibly could IF I WEREN'T SUCH A FESTIVELY MEMORABLE LAY etc and additionally, yes. Years pass and memory fades and you regress from being That Foxy Mad-Canned Lady At The Tote Who I Deliciously Shagged Senseless In The Alleyway to Thingo With The Hair Who I MIght've Stuck It In Once and like sands through the hourglass and so on. I wouldn't be offended really, depending on the time frame, though any bastard climbing out of bed and looking over his shoulder with a startled 'and who might you be...?' expression is really cutting it a bit fine.


audrey said...
Hi ms fits,

I'm making some Gough Whitlam tee shirts with the "It's Time" slogan on them to wear in support of Rudd for the election. Would you like to buy one?

audrey xoxo

PS this is also a shameless attempt to woo other punters through your site.



Oh yes, PLEASE. Will there be a picture of Kevin on it? Will it be orange? May I order an underfed child size so I look sharply seductive and ridiculous to anyone outside of the 3068 postcode?


Jay said...
http://redactedblog.blogspot.com/
other than that, last week's question still stands.




Good LORD. THERE IS ANOTHER FRIDAY QUESTIONER OUT THERE. Who came first, him or me? Should I send someone out to have him killed immediately?




Oh wait, look at his picture.








Hello. Carry on with your questioning, strapping young man of teh interweb.


Anonymous said...
Fits,

Do you have any secret meetings with Brian Burke you'd like to fess up to?

If so, i hope you'll be resigning from your post as blogger/agony aunt/media superstar immediately...



If I had attended a secret meeting with anyone halfway important or scandalous the last bloody place I'd race to crow about it is on here to you lot.



Unless, you know, the encounter somehow made me come off as eminently loveable and possessing the wit of a lady Wilde. In which case it'd be posted immediately.


Anonymous said...
Dear Ms Fitz.

Suave the Cat here:

As per my question last week regarding moving to Bennelong to help Maxine get over the line against J-Ho later this year:

Firstly: Love your work. Your advice is much appreciated.

Secondly: With ASIO and other shady Government agency types investigating death threats made against the lovely Maxine, clearly now is not the time to pack up one’s tent from Melbourne and move to Sydney in an effort to help Maxine embarrass the PM. Accordingly, I fear that my plan has been scuppered (now there’s a word that is sadly under-utlised in our society today, but I digress).

In the hopes of clearing the air and removing the shadow of suspicion that may now have been cast upon RYWHM and your readers, I have prepared have prepared the following statement in response:

“As you would be aware, Federal Police, ASIO and members of the NSW Police Force have been investigating a series of death threats made against Ms Maxine McKew and have also been investigating reports of suspicious activities committed against Ms McKew in the time since announcing her candidacy for the ALP in the Federal seat of Bennelong.

I wish to take this opportunity to place on the public record that I categorically deny any connection whatsoever with the matters that the aforementioned authorities are investigating.

In the words of Bart Simpson; “I didn’t do it”.

I look forward to the authorities tracking down the sicko, right-wing extremist bastards who are responsible for this and expect that the full weight of the law is brought to bear on these jackasses who clearly have inadequacy issues that they are dealing with.

I ask that you respect my privacy at this most difficult time and I will not be making any further public comment on this matter.

I did not inhale.

Vive la Revolucion!

Suave the Cat “

* ENDS *



Is it wrong that when I heard about shady types loitering around Our Maxine's car I immediately thought of you? YOU ANONYMOUS POSTERS PERVADE MY EVERY WAKING THOUGHT.


Anonymous said...
Everyday, I open the paper and see tantalising new peaks and canyons in the great national park that is our political landscape.
Everyday, I wonder to myself, what does Ms.Fits make of all this?
Let me just check the latest postings... hmmm....WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE SEXY POLISPEAK FITS?

Did the last election finally do you in? Or are you worried The Rudd may peak too early? Or is your connection to the ABC making you all BALANCED god forbid? Aren't you feeling the faint flickering of hope, the swelling of the ground, the potential light bulb at the end of that long, dank, odourful tunnel we've been in?

Hope you feel better soon.



Yes, I have been slightly lax with the political blogging of late haven't I? I do apologise. Moving house and other important lifestylings have forced me to rely on lightly amusing scones of bon mots with jammy dollops of swears. I am indeed feeling the flickerings of political optimism and have recently spent many summery nights hugging myself and others in glee when watching beads of perspiration break out on John Howard's face as he points miserably at Kevin and whines: 'But...but...he had dinner...'


Point noted. LET'S HAVE AN ELECTION.


second sun said...
Dear ms fits,

In the interests of encouraging politicak, I submit the following question without notice.

Given that we've now had 4 terms of conservative rule, with the most recent of which including control of the senate, has it occurred to anyone on the left that things aren't actually that bad?

Aside from the shooting at and locking up brown people, has this government really done anything to negatively affect our lives?

The traditional cons to right-wing government are that they slash public programs and impose religious morality - neither of which have occurred under the coalition. Given the ru486 and stem cell debates, the only 'moral victories' I can recall have been in regards to film classification - a moot point anyway nowadays given the intertubes.

If Australia today is the worst-case scenario of right-wing rule, then doesn't it weaken the lefts' 'time for change'?

Also, while you're (presumably) slandering the right, can you provide some insight as to why there are no right-wing equivalents as cool and pretty as yourself for politinerds like me to swoon over? Is it just that coalition chicks are invariably corporate whores, or is it the eschewing of 'decency' that make you and your ilk so attractive?



Oh dear. These long questions always seem to come when I'm nearing the end of Friday q and a's and in rather desperate need of a bath and a cold drink.

With regard to your right-wing hotties, apparently your only port of call is Anne Coulter who may rock the boat of many a tremble-knuckled conservative but does twelve parts of fuck all for me personally as she is known to eat babies



and aside from her you've got no-one as it is medically proven that voting Liberal gives you unsightly facial buboes and a body odour 'issue'. Sorry to break it to you, women of the Right.


My answer to your other business was generally going to address the mean-spirited moral direction the conservative government seems intent on steering us in, but luckily a more eloquent and alert fellow has stepped in:

Joseph said...
Without wanting to step on your toes, Fits, perhaps for second sun's edification we could start a list. Here's my contribution!

* You can be fired from your job without reason.
* You can be tried as a terrorist for something you say or publish. That 'something' is very (and deliberately) imprecisely defined. Your organisation can be blacklisted without right of review by the Attorney-General.
* If you are in the armed forces, you can be sent to advance an illegitimate and extremely dangerous conflict in the Middle East.
* You can choose between far fewer and larger (therefore more homogeneous and conservative) media outlets for your news.
* Apparently you can be captured and indefinitely detained without charge by the United States.
* You can be tried as a pirate for attempting to fairly use your own possessions, under a copyright regime now beholden (under the FTA) to the RIAA/MPAA.
* If you are of significant indigeneous heritage, statistically you are probably a second-class citizen, returned to patriarchal governance, with your former institution of limited self-representation dismantled and not replaced. And there's a campaign afoot to whitewash two hundred years of violence done to your people. Sorry!
* If you are a Muslim, the government implicitly and sometimes explicitly sanctions your public vilification.
* If you are refugee who reached our shores for fair assessment, you are probably indefinitely incarcerated. Count yourself lucky.

Could be worse, I suppose.




I love you, Joseph. For so many, many reasons.


M said...
speaking of Marlee Matlin and sphincters...



I would marry the Family Guy if it were legal in Taiwan. That's right, I went there.


Anonymous said...
second sun, you could always worship ann coulter from afar. she's rabid AND blonde.

ms fits, after watching you on book club last night i had a dream in which you and i wandered over the moors in long dresses. it was quite lovely. it also prompted a few questions.

have you read wuthering heights? i have just realised that repeated readings of it during adolescence may very well have formed my views on relationships ... i.e. fiendishly difficult and/or unconsummated = pure and worthwhile and somehow divine.

if yes, your thoughts?

and were any books formative in a similar way for you?



I am in your dreams WANDERING OVER MOORS? That is fucking magnificent. I'm not sure I've ever officially wandered over a moor in my life. I'm not even positive what a moor is. How delightful that we are able to engage in such mysterious nocturnal activities together.


From memory I chewed my way through Wuthering Heights in early adolescence, but it clearly failed to make a huge impact on me as I can't even recall it and no doubt tossed it carelessly aside to instead focus on my all-important Teen Beat scrapbook feat. Kirk Cameron and Mackenzie Astin (he liked to be called 'Mack', you know). To be perfectly honest the novel that really shook my world as an emoting pubescent was Nabokov's Lolita, which would explain why I am always attracted to elderly pedophiles and like to sunbake in the back yard.


Anonymous said...
Why am I so attracted to Danger Girls? One is a firey redhead who jumped off a chair onto me and another has cigarette burns on her top and cuts on her arms from falling over drunk, but I still get hard in my pants when she kisses me.



Oh, Danger Boys and Girls can be interesting enough I suppose. I got the dizzies for one a while ago who would've made a fucking meal of me if I'd allowed it to progress, though thankfully we seem to have survived as friends relatively unscathed. I'd recommend you probably steer clear of ol' Unco Drunko there with her many burns and cuts (!), though I am the last person to advise since we are free to fuck up our own lives with troublesome big-eyed pots of hedonism and all the wicked delights they entail.


Nyree said...
Hi Ms
Long time reader, first time questioner.
Just a quick Friday question.
After stumbling on the First Tuesday Book Club last night and remarking to myself "oh my god...that's her" I was struck with awe.
How did you sit next to Craig Reucassel for 30 minutes without turning into a giggling schoolgirl/sexual predator?
My head would have been permanently attached to his lap.
Thanks!



He is quite, quite lovely is he not? Handsome and quick-witted and political and oh our arms touched a couple of times on the chairs which was very nice and the exact point I realised that MRS WIFELY REUCASSEL WOULD BE WATCHING and pulled myself together to act the professional for a change as no-one likes a husband-stealing hussy.


Also may I note that they don't much encourage open oral sexing on the book show, no matter how many notes I put in the office suggestion box.


Matt Man said...
Is that a picture of Bettie Page in your profile photo ? (Doing a version of something that a story in one of The Age's weekend magazines called the 'Erochica Bamboo', if I'm not very much mistaken)

Have you been to see The Notorious Bettie Page yet ? If so, what were your thoughts ?



1. It is indeed the lovely Bettie Page. I keep meaning to re-enact that photograph for my own amusement but can never find the fucking time/swimsuit.


2. I haven't seen it yet, no. I would very much like to. Even if the plot is tedious as custard, watching girls shake it in their underpants for 90 minutes is my idea of a nice night out.


Anonymous said...
Dearest Ms Pixie Fitz,

I walked into an arts tutorial at uni this morning, fractionally late and with a legitimate reason (rooly trooly – no euphemism); ready to get my creative on.

Anyways, the tutor was utterly deflating and rude – and only to me. Other children came in after me, and she was all smiles and encouragement. When I proffered a suggestion, she verbally smacked me, and then used my idea ten minutes later AS HER OWN. This sort of behaviour continued through the class.

I wouldn’t mind a bit of tempestuous-bitch-frippery with her, banter is always entertaining – but this is the woman who is MARKING MY WORK.

My question is, in light of the fact that I need this subject to complete my degree, and it is impossible to change tutes, how should I approach this? I have always had a good report with lecturers/tutors before, and am miffed shitless as to why she chose me, or indeed, anyone.

Spanks.



'Miffed shitless'. Heh. That is remarkably ace and I shall be borrowing it if that's quite alright.


I am really the worst person to ask about University politics as I never attended Third School and view it with the kind of awed 'Kids from Fame' reverence only an uneducated moron would have. You sound like you're experiencing typical corporate-world creative pain and believe me I worked under someone far worse who pleasingly was later arrested for soliciting sex from children so you've only got brightness ahead.


I fear, however, that if you attempt to tackle this heinous woman you'll come off looking like a shrilly paranoid arts student and even worse she'll take your conversational addressings as a full-scale attack and mark you the fuck down even further until you're carried away by the nice men in white coats shouting about plaster moulds and the work of George Braques. Is there anyone else you can talk to about this? Don't they have counsellors at Uni with nice offices and sweet biscuits? FOR GOD'S SAKE, START KNOCKING.


Anonymous said...
What a complicated premise,
Dedicating a lim'rick to Bevis,
Finding something that rhymes,
With Bevis three times,
Is poetry's climb up Ben Nevis.

Was that any good? Please say yes I am desperate for the approval of strangers.



It's wonderful, actually. And I do very much hope it will coax our Bevis out of his strop and back to the Friday q and a community where he belongs. ARE YOU HEARING THIS, BEVIS? WE MISS YOU.


*******************


It's short, I know. I have at least three more for tomorrow and I will tackle them at my earliest convenience - apologies. Right now I have to go be safety supervisor at a North Melbourne disco during which time I hope I get to wear a special helmet.


Leave your questions for next Friday in the comments below and for god's sake take me out for breakfast.






246 days til the next election.

40 comments.

Comments

09Mar19:03
Lukeus said...

Hello Ms Fits (shocking alias..),

For your next lot of questions: (and I'm new, so sorry if this is done the wrong way)

I only became aware of your good self watching the Tuesday Book Club the other night and now thanks to my good friend Wikipaedia consider myself well versed.

Please give me lots of notice when you're going to be on RRR from now on.

I must ask:
1 - Why did Craig Reucassel have such a clean appearance on TV last tuesday - what happened to the ragged mongrel that leverages an entire bus and puts Peter Costello's face on it to harass John Howard?

2 - Ha! You had to sit next to Malcolm Turnball.
I'm just wandering through some of the archives: http://www.abc.net.au/tv/firsttuesday/video/
So what was that like?

3 - Funnily enough I'm currently half way through reading the landmark Power Without Glory and I see there was a TV serial done in 1975. Do you know if its any good?

4 - Where do intelligent, political, 'off-the-cuff' single 20s girls go on a Friday night?

Cheers.

09Mar20:48
richardwatts said...

"Is that poetic enough for you? I was certainly blissful when I climbed out of bed and walked to get a coffee in the searing AM heat, and all that was in my heart calmed for a second."

Yes, definitely, especially that last line, which cries out to be included in the opening or closing paragraph of a memorable short story.

"I have asked more than one person this particular question (whether such outrageous requests from strangers are ever met with a keen nod of affirmation and evening of wild sexings) and the general consensus seems to be in the world of 'no fucking way'."

As a practicing-but-haven't-got-it-
right-yet homosexualist, I can cheerfully admit to once staggering up to a hot bloke and saying "I'm crap at all this cruising shit, d'ya wanna fuck?' which resulted in an evening (well, hour) of lubricious and memorable sex.

That said, if I was straight and tried that on a woman I'd expect to have my face slapped, so go figure.

Men are just easy, really, I suspect is the moral.

Except me, he adds suddenly in a desperate attempt to appear fine and upstanding...

Dear me, my posts are becoming postively Bevis-esque in length - I'll go away now.

Except to jubilantly and drunkenly shout that my word verification for this comment is 'okshgy' = OK SHAGGY = either i'm going to get laid at Golden Plains or cast in a surreal remake of Scooby Doo...

09Mar21:22
Tyson said...

Howdy Ms. Fits,

First time questioner, but long time reader. Well, thats not true. Originally I was just skimming the words and reading the pretty ones, but now my scrolling finger gets tired, so I just make sure the first few screenfuls of text make a nice shape. They usually do.

Let's get down to business and talk cookies. Or biscuits. Choc chip. I'd like your opinion. In the following classes, my favourites are as follows:

Budget to mid-range: K-Mart Decadents (now reboxed as Coles Ultimates)

Mid-range to gourmet: Mrs. Fields

Frozen range: Choc Chip Cookie (the Streets brand, forget the Maxibon)

What is your informed perspective?

09Mar22:15
Daniel said...

obviously, commenting on a blog that mentions oneself, albeit in largely unlflattering tones is the act of rank egotism.

however if i could take a moment of your time to point out the slight hypocrisy in someone calling into question my discretion on stage by criticising and misquoting me on the internet, which is believe has a slightly larger audience than 48 people in a room above a pub. i may be wrong. maybe its all gone wrong for the internet.

the bit in question, is indeed still something of a dirty feathered feldgling. but the sentiment is not that people i have kissed in the past are meaningless and "despicable sluts" but rather that the act of trying to meet new people to find adventures and the potential filled tingle this engenders is meaningless unless one then spends ones life with that person and these lurid adventures become the sweet memories of a couple on their fiftieth aninversary.

and it wasnt about people who wrote on here. some of which, and i hestitate to say this in such a rigorously accountable system, were fibbers.

10Mar01:25
arleeshar said...

I have been wearing my mother's original "it's time" campaign singlet top for some time now to festive events. About six months ago I suddenly started receiving multiple comments about how cool it was, I have seen a couple of them about. I have never been happier to be on the cutting edge of fashion.

I recommend that we all wear "it's time" singlets this election, authentic or no, in the hope that we are no longer early adopters.

10Mar09:19
elaine said...

Lesbionic, lesbonic, lesbonix, lesbeans, lesbosuns - I shall create words as I see fit and it's up to you to decipher what the sam hill I'm on about

Lesbosuns! that sounds like a ship full of saucy wenches.

might you know where I could find one of those?

10Mar11:25
Niki said...

Can you shower in four minutes, Ms Fits?

The best I can do, without shaving or impinging on my sense of cleanliness, is 10 minutes and 52 seconds.

Does the prospect of perpetually smelly Queenslanders being chased by ibixen* wishing to feast on warm armpit amuse Victorians?

Off to shower, back in four LOLZ.

* my friend and I coined this plural for ibis a couple of years ago, since a singular ibis never occurs naturally.

10Mar12:07
Anonymous said...

Far out, Daniel Kitson is with us!

Ms F. - on the 'I worked under someone far worse who pleasingly was later arrested for soliciting sex from children so you've only got brightness ahead' front - I, too, worked 'under' (eek) that person and vividly recall the front page photograph of his head being helped into the back seat of a police vehicle. I remember a co-worker describing his laugh as sounding like someone being sucked down a plughole. And the man's classy expression of homo-erotic desire, delivered mid-story meeting - 'I'd like to suck him off till his nipples caved in.' (SFX: gagging plughole). Ah dear. Anyway, he mellowed somewhat as the illness set in, but, yes, the workplace can be fraught with dangers.

10Mar12:51
xenios said...

Ms Fits,

With a degree of of pomposity *snort* I am staking my claim as a first time poster to RYWHM.
This is written with an element of exasperation as my first attempt was foiled by a `broadband dropout', all ready to close and send...then nothing. The frustration of which had me bang my head against the keyboard *querty embedded on forehead*

A question I ask of your illustrious self. Later this month
I will be attending a gay female wedding in Melbourne. Are there any particular protocols to observe or
adhere to on such an occasion?

This being my first maybe you have some pearls of advice to offer.

xenios

10Mar14:33
nugget said...

Occasional lurker, but first time I’ve put my hand up in class.

(1) Does the interwebz worry you as an indelible repository of every foible/ weak moment/ personal factoid you decided to share all with two billion others? I mean, if people knew about the time when I was sixteen and drank Blackberry Nip and threw up so hard a piece of capsicum came out of my nose the next day, I would be mortified.

Damn.

(2) I’m also thinking of the stalker-ish element out there. Hi, gang! Having cracked your secret identity this week, I can google “your name” and get 117 responses* (I’m quite jealous, I only get 24 and one of those is for a completely different Rhys ‘X’** who also lives in Melbourne and whose MyShite band sounds like possums fucking in a saucepan cupboard). Does the permeability of the interwebz ‘fourth wall’ worry you? I suppose you could always set Bob Ellis to ‘crotch’ and unleash him on an interloper.

(3) When the city finally cracks my will and I whimper back to the country, I’m going to get two Foxies and call them collectively (a): the Mosquito Fleet and individually (b): Malarkey and Poontang (which would, of course, be shortened to Poonie when the Queen comes to luncheon). Thumbs up or down?

Cheers dears,
Nugget

* I know googling someone’s name (except your own) is freaky-deaky, but I was curious.
** I have seen Highlander and know I must devour his soul to gain strength.

10Mar14:37
Cloudy said...

With regard to your right-wing hotties, apparently your only port of call is Anne Coulter...and aside from her you've got no-one as it is medically proven that voting Liberal gives you unsightly facial buboes and a body odour 'issue'. Sorry to break it to you, women of the Right.

Well, I'm happy to point out Leni Riefenstahlfor the Right to claim/fess-up-to as one of their own but she might be a bit "far out" for some of them. Apparently quite the hot dancer and movie starlet (can't see it myself) before making some new friends and moving behind the camera. Okay, her heyday was 70 years ago but she only died in 2003, and could obviously still pull well into her 50s.

10Mar17:48
Simon said...

In regard to the four-minute showering... I have the answer. Cold water.
I would regularly shower for 15-20min before I tried this, it was my favourite spot for daydreaming.

Now I'm down to: 10sec (wetting), break for soaping/giggling hysterically, 30sec (rinsing). Less than a minute, then.
Also, the cold shower is good for:

Winter- it will warm you up. Or kill you, either is good.

Power and water bills fall significantly.

Hangovers- banishes them, along with feelings of tiredness.

Silky smooth skin- doesn't strip moisture out of you.

Virtuous feeling- as a hard cunt, you feel massively superior to everyone else, with their pink, feminine skin, and vulnerable open pores.

You'll find there's a small and secret pleasure in punishing yourself.

It does *not* have the commonly ascribed effect on libido, but sadly, there are few partners who will join you.

10Mar18:32
Anonymous said...

evenin fitsmcgee.
multi-part questionnaire.
a) what do you do/eat/surround yourself with etc when hungover?
b) i have been in an area of "solitude" (man wise) for the last 2-3 years & now there is this huge abundance, (i feel i can say this proudly because of my foremost lacking in the younger years) & am having trouble with deciding. everything or nothin it seems. i am kissing alot but it's getting to the stage where 2 may show up at the same bar/gig/event. your advice if i may? play them all, date one, two?
c) i think your pretty.
ok done.
put your brain to work!

10Mar19:23
Fridge Magnet said...

Trust I'm not too late to continue Thursday's conversation.

... 'fancy sitting on my penis?'-type in-your-face spiel and he had a 30 percent success rate.

Mid-70s. Cameraman I knew used: "I suppose a fuck's out of the question?" and claimed three out of ten said yes.

That included a desirable in an Adelaide bar who suggested that it was a terribly negative approach so he re-phrased: "How about a fuck, then?" She nodded and headed off into the gloom with him.

10Mar20:08
Daniel said...

M to the F.

First, a short story. I returned home from work last Tuesday night and boxing training quite exhausted and conked out on my bed but not before I had somehow turned the TV to the abc. Imagine my surprise when I awoke some time later with Ms Fits herself talking about books. Just thought I'd say it was lovely.

Friday Question:

I've been a freelance writer for the last four years or so and have in my time grown to be much more wary and understanding of the publishing industry. However, when I was bright eyed and naive I started working for an editor who kept putting off paying me. Stupidly I continued to work thinking he'd be 'good for it'.

To cut a long story short, this bloke dropped ten grand of his own money into a music festival that nobody bought tickets for and suddenly had more debts than orifices. The excuses for why I wasn't being paid got more and more intricate until finally he came out with the motherload:

"Well, I was going to borrow money from my uncle in Sydney but he stopped answering his phone and we thought he'd gone missing. Finally we sent cops around to his house and when they got inside they found he'd been dead for two weeks. So, that's why I can't pay you."

To this day I think this is so ludicrous an excuse that it has to be true. But maybe that's what he wanted me to think. Anyway, not long after this his contact details went dead and he disappeared off the face of the earth. He still owes me and many other people. I'm tempted to tell you his name but I'm not sure what the legality of that sort of thing is.

Anyway, since you yourself are a 'professional writer' I thought you might be able to relate. SO, my question is:
what is the worst/best excuse you've had from an employer about why you haven't been paid yet?

(And if you have no such anecdote, here's my alternate question: what do you think, if anything, about the Transhumanist movement?).

Daniel

11Mar11:03
Shane Jesse said...

Ms. Fits I say this as a friend, Frday Q&A sucks balls! Get back to writing your blog.

11Mar15:51

Shane Jesse, I believe it is you who sucks balls.

Fits, as you were.

11Mar19:43
Tony tone-E said...

I have a question, although I'm not sure if it goes here. It concerns the Nine Inch Nails Song 'closer' and the fact that so many women love it. The love of the song is particularly pronounced when it gets to the part about 'I wanna fuck you like an animal' etc. Women I have known say theings like "oh I LOVE this song' and shake their head, sing along with heavy emphasis on the word 'fuck'.

OK, so that's all fair enough, but here's my question. Have they ever considered the possiblity that animals aren't very good roots? I'm not talking about bestiality, but about the sexual enjoyment animals might get from doing the wild thing.

From the nature documentaries I've seen, it doesn't look like fun at all. Cockatiels for example, the male bites the female on the neck, sticks it in for about 2 seconds, if shes lucky, then retreats.

Hyenas: male bites and claws female frome behind long enough for half a dozen short thrusts.

Trout: not even any body contact, female lays eggs, male ejaculates over eggs after she's left the vicinity.

Meercats: do I really need to go on?

Or is Reznor's 'animal' not actualy wildlife, but a metaphor for losing all bourgiose affectations and hang-ups and losing yourself during sex?

I reckon my female friends who go all bleary-eyed when they hear 'closer' need to have a think. What do you reckon?

Thanks for your time, you've been tremendous.

11Mar23:05
BEVIS said...

Okay then, but only because you insist. (Now you've only got yourself / me to blame.)

1. Do you think Gabi would ever consider putting The Town Bikes on a TV show like Australia's Got Talent? I love the idea of petite-but-enthusiastic Grant Denyer having to announce their act by name, is all.

2. Do you know Grant Denyer?

3. What are your thoughts on Grant Denyer?

4. How about Red Symons?

5. Did you ever think it would be possible that Channel Seven could bring together three 'entertainment judges' like Red Symons, Dannii Minogue and a somewhat botoxed Tom Burlinson, only to discover that RED is the only one who's 100% bio-degradable?

6. I thought the BEVIS 'Ben Nevis' limerick Anonymous penned last week was brilliant. This isn't a question but I wanted to say it.

7. Even I think that's enough BEVIS limericks for now, though. Would you perhaps consider bringing them back as an ANNUAL event? (It might put a stop to them continually turning up here, that's all. I'm all about what the public wants. You know me.)

8. Enough? Okay.

11Mar23:44
Former Liberal Voter said...

As a lifelong liberal voter, would I be harassed and ridiculed by you and your peers for jumping onboard with Mr Rudd in the next election?

I find myself supporting him in spirit at every turn, and want this to be reflected in my vote the next time we go to the polls.

But I wonder if those loud anti-Liberal types (you included, going by your blog) would spend their time giving me grief about my past voting habits rather than enjoy the spoils of victory for successfuly winning me over.

I wouldn't want to tell my friends about the change in my voting beliefs if they'd only be harsh with me despite agreeing with them now.

Your thoughts?

12Mar10:54
ruby said...

Re: the Selma Blair/SMG lesbonic/lesbionic/sapphic traffic stopper, etc - I once had the pleasure of interviewing miss Blair, though it was in fact in relation to Legally Blonde, in which she plays Reese Witherspoon's nemesis (Reese really *was* the fin-de-siecle Doris Day, don't you agree?). Of course, she had then recently won the MTV award for Best Screen Kiss for her salival shenanigans with La Gellar (look at you and your sharing of the taste with the 16 year old girls LOL!!11! Where is this year's Clueless or Mean Girls? Gap in the market waiting, like me, for your inimitable touch). Vis a vis this high point of the osculum in cinema, she had this to say: "Well, Sarah was a pretty good kisser, but it was ridiculous as they had to make it all look bigger and more salacious for the close-up, so the director was telling me to really give her the excessive porno tongue. I only wish I wasn't trying to occupy the headspace of an innocent 15 year old as he shouted those instructions."

My Q: i would like to know more about your sax life... for someone who is so very into music (and musicians?) you don't ever mention much about your own forays in this direction. Give us the skinny on your dances with Euterpe (as we already know about your Thalian efforts).

ruby

12Mar12:43
DJKL said...

Fuck I knew that someone would use Ben Nevis in a limerick if I didn't get in quick enough and sure enough they did. I actually made this limerick up on the bus on Friday morning but wasn't able to find the time to log on and post it, so now I look really stupid. It doesn't rhyme Bevis with "Bevis", or "premise" (which is really pushing it, but no offence to either McDave or Anon intended). So although it's not very original I still think it has a nice poetic ring to it and an intriguing plot:

I once took a trip to Ben Nevis
Where I met a young fellow named Bevis.
Loud thunder rumbled,
And hard rain a-tumbled,
And we both stumbled into a crevice.

Apologies to all those who are thoroughly sick of these limericks.
My question is:
Do you get annoyed by the use of zed when "s" is perfectly fine? (for example organise/organize). Melvil Dewey is to blame for this, which makes me ashamed to be a librarian sometimes.

12Mar14:54

good afternoon ms fits,
i seem to be forever turning to you for relationship advice. first its cheating boyfriends, then its the
dashing mark priestly of all saints fame, and now - this one.

i have recently been seeing (read sleeping with) a boy who has a girlfriend who lives in melbourne.
boy is gong to melbourne to see ben kweller, and gf will most probably be there.

i would absolutely adore going to melbourne to see ben kweller, as he is a right bit of spunk, but im a tad worried about the boy/gf issues.

apparently he broke up with her last night when he confessed to sleeping with me, but im still worried that my visit to melbs to gaze upon ben will be marred by some exgf's eyes daggering into me.

should i go? i dont have the tickets yet, but he's only playing in adelaide with john mayer and i dont feel like hearing 15 year old girls screaming all night.

if i go, perhaps you know of someone who is going? someone cool who i can hang out with and we can have a marvellous time ogling mr kweller and imagining him in our pants? that would make it so much easier.

thanking you in advance,
carly

12Mar14:56

sorry to post twice, but i just had a horrible thought. imagine if the world couldnt come up with any more ridiculous names for children, and people started using word verification for ideas...

this is my baby girl, her name is eemty...

13Mar05:13
Anonymous said...

Dear Ms Fits,

Who funds you?

Is it the government?

If so, why must ordinary working and middle class people pay for your spoilt inner city drivel?

Asking frankly,
Working bouy.

13Mar07:01
Anonymous said...

Why would anyone imply that sucking balls is a bad thing?

13Mar10:20
Anonymous said...

morning miss f,

here's an old fashioned yet still timely one, for me at least.
girls asking boys out, does it ever really work or does it give the wrong impression? (i.e. set up the chaser/chasee dynamic to the wrong gender settings early from which they may never recover. that's what my mother says. but she also says you can't trust the chinese so sometimes i need a second opinion)

it sounds quaint but after 2006 the year of dismal romantic failure (tm) i'd planned, as a lady, to swear off asking anyone out ever again & becoming the precious commodity that the fellas have gotta earn. while this moral high ground has lovely views, it's cold at night.

& now, darn it, i've found myself IN LOVE (yeah, you heard me, cards on the table, motherfuckers) with a boy & i know not what to do... especially since we're doing the "i think i like you so i can't speak to you without spilling something on myself so better just to hide over here a while & cast furtive glances" routine. you know the one. so your help, please?

thanks ever so,

in love in east melbourne.

13Mar11:32
Big Matt Stud said...

Ms Fits, I was wondering about the evolution of your blog, and how it got to the point where each of your postings now attract an average of 27 comments, as opposed to when your archives start in 2004, when your utterances attracted an average of 1.84 comments each (is it too stalkerish to have actually calculated those averages, and does it provide too much of an insight into what I do for a living ?) Anyhoo, I was wondering how you think you got to this level of popularity, and whether it seems weird at all to you that so many people that you don't know seem to find you interesting enough to regularly check in on what you've got to say.

By the way, in love in east melbourne, for what it's worth, as a representative of the male gender, re being asked out by girls - we fucking love it. If you ask a guy out and he runs away, or thinks it's awkward, then he was never really that keen on you anyway, or he's a jerk. Either way, it's better to find out than to sit around wondering, so my advice is to go for it.

13Mar19:00
DJKL said...

Ah, just read Bevis's comment that people should just step the fuck off re: the limericks, but I posted my version before I saw that. So apo-logies to all involved. I'll be off now.

13Mar21:04
Anonymous said...

Dear Ms Fits,

I for one am getting a bit sick of the, "What's it like being the messiah?" question which invariably appears each week. Don't they know you are just a very naughty girl? (Apologies to Monty Python - like they care.)

You could institute a tacit decree to ignore these questions - this being your personal electronic kingdom and you being a lady of manners and all; or you could reply, "Well, my friends really love me, lots of people think they love me, and everyone else definitely hates me."

Never having experienced fame, I am duly unqualified to write all this, so I boldly ask: do you forgive my didactic dictums?

PS You...






complete me.












Just kidding.

13Mar23:16
Anonymous said...

Is it wrong to want to give Kevin Rudd one two or (any many as he wants) even three goes at 'winning over my electorate', so to speak?
I almost feel as if I'd be helping him towards victory by allowing him to let off a little stress in a private, enthusiastic and judgement-free environment.
So, the question is, is wanting to shag Kevin Rudd senseless completely screwy or the mark of a sane, red-blooded left-woman?

14Mar15:44
BEVIS said...

DJKL, please don't take my comment to heart - you are most kind and generous to be penning such a limerick. Even if you don't mean it to be, I find it highly flattering.

I only said what I said (and I believe you paraphrased me there, as I don't like to swear) because I'm sensitive to the fact that OTHERS are sick to death of me (and the mere mention of my name) on this blog, so I'm trying to call an end to it all before the BEVIS backlash gets so out-of-hand that I can't walk down the road for a pint of milk because (a) someone will stab me for showing my face around here and (b) I don't live in England.

I hope you understand.

(Your limerick was excellent!)

14Mar19:03
DJKL said...

Bevis, thanks for that, but don't worry I don't take anything to (my cold, dead, black) heart. Glad you enjoyed it, even if it did make light of us meeting and stumbling to our doom... or did we?

14Mar21:07
Anonymous said...

I'm kinda sad.... Mine wuz one of the three you didn't get to last week...(hangs head and shuffles feet)

14Mar21:56

Dearest Ms Fits,

Re: Friday q and a #58. I can't remember which one was Statler and which one was Waldorf, but... JP is a dear old friend, I've known him for a fair whack of a decade now and I bought him a pair of Superman jocks last Christmas. AH is JP's great chum, they are fellow 'Writers in Arms' and go about the place being young, spunky and literary. I've only ever met AH once, but have heard a lot about him through JP. So, I'm not dating either of them (although JP once tried to make me marry Matthew Reilly).

Now, my problem is that I don't really have a question, I just wanted to answer yours and seeing as though I had forgotten about it until now, I didn't want you to think me rude (which is not always the case with me). So I think I'd like to quickly make one up now.

Um.

Fuck.

OK, ooh! I have one. Seeing as how you've moved to Collingwood, and you've borne the revolting destruction of your beloved team, Fitzroy, would coming along to a Pies game, with me and my pink thermos and knees blanky, to shout CARN THE MIGHTY PIES like banshee bogan bitches, sway you to join the ranks of the most reviled football supporters in Christendom (even if it could never be wholeheartedly)?

15Mar00:15
Tim said...

I hate Friday questions. They are so long that scrolling through them to find your other posts is now an arduous task, and the majority of ‘questions’ are either from people you don’t know sucking up to you or people you do know cunningly advising the other sycophants that you are friends in the real world. I ask, Ms Fits, would you consider letting the Friday questions go?

15Mar08:26
BEVIS said...

Tim, I don't think you know what you're talking about. The kinds of examples you've given never actually happen, and you're a fool for saying they do.

I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH MS FITS AND ACTED IN A MUSICAL WITH HER AND WROTE HER A LETTER ONCE WHICH SHE BROUGHT UP AT OUR HIGH SCHOOL REUNION A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN SHE FLIRTED WITH ME - SHE REALLY FLIRTED WITH ME - AND GAVE ME HER BUSINESS CARD, POSSIBLY HOPING FOR NAUGHTY-STYLE SHENANIGANS TO BE ARRANGED FOR A LATER DATE, NOT KNOWING AT THE TIME THAT I'M NOW HAPPILY MARRIED, THE POOR DEAR.

Sorry, I "lost time" for a moment there.

15Mar12:25
Anonymous said...

Do you ever miss me?

15Mar12:32
catbrain said...

Dear Ms Fits,

Why are people getting so upset about Friday Questions?

Am I too organised and/or potentially stalkerish?

15Mar12:39
Richo said...

What do think of the Blions choosing to wear the same guernseys Fitzroy wore in their final game in two matches this coming season (as read in Friday's Age)?

Would it inspire you to go along and watch, or would the trauma of reliving this shameful day in Australian sporting history cause an excess of grief and anguish?

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