Insert something funny about 'bush'rangers. Then insert something funny about the word 'insert'. Exeunt.
Here is some borderline interesting discussion that took place in an online music chatroom yesterday:
'Ned Kelly a bit gay?
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Wonsly: So this guy at my work is telling me that Ned and another guy in his gang use to get it on for years. anyone heard this ??
bucketbong: homophobe
montyclift: helmetist
metalchicks: Getting the Heath movies mixed up
montyclift: i think steve hart was a little 'extravagant'. but 'gay' in 1870 country victoria probably meant he didnt crutch sheep with his teeth.
and there was that legend they went to the melbourne races in drag.
barman: Ned's helmet was a bukkake defence.
Slatts: Ned's brother and Steve hart wore dresses and painted their faces black toward the end of their days in the tradition from some part of Ireland where they would do this and go attack their english oppressors. Unfortunately they were overzealous in their want to do this as it turns out that the ones in Ireland were fucked and used to attack their own people as well as the english... cunts
Oh yeah and as a result of this Ned was a bit worried about steve and his bro being wooly woofters, as they would never tell ned why they did it. Ned's father was a cross dresser though
sting-bono: the whole kelly gang were gay argument is based on dan kelly and steve hart's charred bodies found lying together in the glenrowan inn. obviously if you're a gay outlaw and you know you're about to die your first reaction would be to get on the floor and punch some donut while bullets fly and the place is burning.
montyclift: with beards like that, they were obviously opening the glenrowan chapter of the bears club.
montyclift: australian heroes aint what they used to be.
Toddhoney: Well Ian Thorpe is considered a hero - that ties in well with this topic (at least the question)
montyclift: yes. yes it does.'
HAD ANYONE ELSE HEARD OF THIS SALACIOUS AND INTRIGUING TALE?
Since when did Ned Kelly fall under the category 'possible homo'? Who is responsible for releasing the Gay Outlaws of Australia 2006 calendar? WHEN WILL JOHN LAWS GET A HOLD OF THIS POTENTIALLY EXPLOSIVE AND NATION-DIVIDING STORY.
It certainly got lonely out in them there campsites I guess. Maybe NK was a swinger.
p.s. bags me on the Ned Kelly float at next year's Mardi Gras.
598 days til the next election.
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It is all lovingly documented in Peter Carey's True History of the Kelly Gang ...
Really, frou frou? I'm surprised my father didn't inform me, given his love for all things gay.
if you're on the ned kelly float i'll wave to you from my spot on the POOS float.
just imagine the design of THAT float.
Maybe he got despondent about not being able to meet the 'right' girl (living the life of an outlaw and all)and decided to love another man.
Isn't that how all men become gay?
No I hadn't heard the rumour.
When did THAT particular chat room become so hilarious?
"..obviously if you're a gay outlaw and you know you're about to die your first reaction would be to get on the floor and punch some donut while bullets fly and the place is burning."
Classic.
Ukulele, isn't that what Dave and Ricky C were about to do in the Da Ali G Movie when they were locked up in a room together and thought they were about to die.
Or was that made up?
DJKL sez: Another lurker on here (BDW) had the privilege of interviewing the one and only Mark "Chopper" Read at the opening of his art exhibition here in Perth. Old Chop Chop had some rather interesting things to say about lots of things, but one of his favourite topics (and artistic subjects) was the gayness of Ned Kelly. I'll see if I can get BDW to come over here and tell the story himself as he'll do a much better job than I can.
Someone gets around cyberspace under the name of 'bucketbong'.
?? !!
No, just as with sailors who spend all their time at sea with other men, bushrangers on the run from the law for months at a time in the company of other fellas would never do such a thing.
Besides which, we all know he wasn't, cos he boinked that bankers wife. I saw it in the movie. And despite his accent, Mick Jagger played him, and he's not gay, no matter what Bowie's ex wife says.
Haha. mfyggey.
Men from yon Glenrowan: Gey?
I love topical word verification.
I'm still cracking up over 'helmetist'.
I have never heard such a thing, but if Ned was gay I wonder if he considered an additional cut-out shape in his facial armour. Perhaps a hole of some sort? Glorious idea that.
I actually wrote an article about this a couple of years ago for the gay mag DNA. There was a gay bushranger, Captain Moonlight, but there's no concrete historical evidence I know of to suggest that any of the Kelly gang were gay.
Yes, Steve Hart and Dan Kelly's bodies were found together after the Glenrowan Siege, but they weren't inflagrante delicto. Most of cross-dressing scenes in Carey's 'A True History...' were entirely fictionalised.
Claims that Ned and co were queer were made in the 1960's - mainly to suggest that the gang were 'beyond the pale', and not the sort of men to be admired as folk heroes at all... I'll try and post more factual information on my blog when I get home tonight, if anyone's interested.
Dude why do you think they spent so much time camping?
DO YOU THINK JOHN LAWS EVER CAMPS?
(ok but he doesn't do it "in your face")
(he does it in your bottom)
(ALLEGEDLY)
xoxo nora
PS I saw Chopper recently and he says Alan Jones camps for sures.
'camp', eh? PHWOAR.
I know this belongs as a comment to the PRICK post, but anyways...
Just saw on the 7:30 report tonight a report on water-recycling which mentioned the Queensland based group, Citizens Against Drinking Sewage.
Do the people just decide that so long as the initials spell a word -- any word -- that's good enough?
I think it's outrageous that the reputation of a top Aussie icon like Ned Kelly should be dragged through the mud by a those pushing a perverted homosexualist agenda.
I'm sick and tired of these people rewriting history and I object to having this sort of thing rammed down our throats day in and day out.
As far as I'm concerned these outrageous practices should be kept on the rugby field where they belong.
Yeah, Unca ChopChop had a lot to say on the subject, but it mainly pertained a whole lot to Ned Kelly and his wanton/ rampant homosexuality...
"Spent entirely too much time hanging out in drag... pooftering round with Steve Hart"
[gratuitious and volumnuous swear words excluded]
So while he was on the subject of homers, I asked him to elucidate on the GayList (keep in mind this was a tv program concerning art and artistes)
"Bob Hawke - well, he's actually bi..."
"And you know Kerry said to Jamie before he died 'If you don't get Thorpie pregnant I'm cutting u outa the will!'"
I'm sure a post-modern racontuer like Chopper recognises the inherent irony in the main subject of all his paintings being a "sexually confused" Ned Kelly (ala Sydney Nolan, by the way, also an "old fag living in London.. fuck him!") - or that he himself has drawn the comparison of being a 'modern day outlaw ala Ned Kelly'...
I think the highlight was asking him what he thought of the arts community, being that it is a program specifcally to enhance the profile of the arts community,
"I reject the arts community in its entirety!"
Then he went had a spliff and calmed down
I'll never forget the tenacity with which he spat out the words "old fag", hilarious!
$BDW$
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