Reasons you will hate me

you're too pretty to be blogging.

I love what you did with the Liberal guy. Nice work.

What are the chances the fireman was a pyro?

An observation of my own while taking the missus to vote.

While she went into the church hall, i stood outside watching the various parties handing out the how-to-vote cards. What was most surprising was the way the greens girls nad the family first girl were getting on like a house on fire, truly. There was much flirting and chatting and goo goo eyes being made. Obviously sex and minor party politics do mix.

I had what I can only describe as a visceral reaction to the Family First hander-out-erer that went something like this:

Family First woman: Family First?

Me: Pffft! NO.

I resisted the temptation to add, 'AS IF!' or 'I know you are but what am I?'

I took immense delight in saying “Eeeeewwwwwwwwwwww. Get that away from me” when the Family First how-to-vote instructors attempted to thrust pamphlets my way. And then I bought some delicious homemade cherry plum jam and Ethiopian date biscuits at the local primary school where I voted. A truly lovely day in all, I’d say.

And now for the caucus reshuffling today.

And the rally on Thursday.

And the Feds next year.

Dear Fits,

DISSAPOINTED to see that you handed out for an Independent during the election. For the Federal Election I absolutely insist you hand out for the ALP –no independents, quirky or otherwise. (We’ll find you a booth where freaky fashion might help).

For your correspondents who complain about being approached by Tories etc with how to votes, spare a thought for those of us WHO HAD TO STAND NEXT TO THEM FOR 10 HOURS WHILE THEY TRIED TO TALK TO US.

Election Day Highlights Across Melbourne.

7.45am - Making the Greens take down unauthorised election ads at a polling booth – the production of a digital camera and mutterings about “the Court of Disputed Returns” gains prompt co-operation.

8.15 am - Chatty aspirational Young Liberal arrives clad like a golfer and eating Maccas (“I’ve had to come over from Kew because there aren’t any Liberals around here”). Advise said Liberal as follows - “Fuck off. I’m not your mate.”

8.25 am - The Chatty Jesus Freak from Family First solemnly informs us that “Our Pastor says it’s important for Christians to be involved in politics.” Speech about foetuses cut short by rejoinder - “Fuck off. I’m not your mate either.”

10.00 am - Crushing the idealism of the young Greens worker (who had been loudly complaining about the “Labor Machine”) by showing her on their State-wide How-to-Vote all the seats in which they were telling people to preference the Liberals. The Liberal chiming in with “We think we’ll win three seats on Green preferences” rounded out the moment nicely.

8.15-6.00pm- Delighted to discover that about 98% of Green Voters get really angry when shown evidence of preference deal with Liberals.

1.00pm – Ted Baillieu posters are torn from fence by gust of wind and are trampled by a Camel present for the school fete. (I’m not making this up.)

Approx. 2.00pm - The whole stack of Liberal How-To-Votes mysteriously disappears after they are left unattended.

6.01pm - Greens scrutineer excluded from a critical booth count. Trap for young players– you must be inside the door at 6.00pm when they shut it……

8.30-10pm – Free beer while watching Robert Doyle and his heart-so-full-of-hate on ABC TV.

Was he a cute burly fireman?

I got to smile and say "One word: Tampa" when a Labor flunky tried to pass me their How to vote card, then took one with a smile from the Greens' bloke next to her.

Then I went home and recovered from my RRR-induced hangover...

Hello Anonymous.

I would like to point out that the Greens did not preference the Liberals in ANY SEAT in Victoria. The Greens actually preferenced Labor in ALL UPPER HOUSE SEATS
and the majority of lower house seats (including Melbourne).

In the small number of seats where the Greens didn't explicitly direct preferences to Labor, we left it up to voters as to where they would like to place the numbers.

If you want to talk about dirty preference deals: Do I need to remind you that ALP preferences were instrumental in getting Family First elected to the senate in 2004, because your party just couldn't cope with the prospect of Green success? Do you honestly think that sort of arrangement and outcome really helps anyone on the left?

The Greens and the ALP are not ideological enemies and it's a waste of energy and resources for the ALP to be constantly attacking the Greens while drifting ever rightwards.

well said, young Fop.



All this and handsome to boot. You really are a catch, aren't you?

I'd love to know just how many greenies actually vote for the Greens. By greenies I mean, the people who chain themselves to trees that make a difference in the environmental movement. Greenies I would say generally don't participate in the democratic political process and seek to create social change in other ways. Who are the Greens' voters then? Middle-Class yuppies and slackivists who can't make up their mind as to who to vote for. The labor is just a machine argument just doesn't wash because the preference deals the greens did (or didn't do) goes further than pragmatism, it is an abuse of the trust their supporters had in them and it showed in their poor electoral result.

Oh do fuck off you completely tedious cunt! (Not you Fits, obv. x)

1. The Greens held their vote from 2002 levels and will increase their upper house representation from 0 members to at least 2 members. Yes, a massive failure.

2. It's telling that you need to marginalise the Greens voters into an imagined demographic of people you somehow see as worthless rather than addressing the real reasons why these people mightn't have put "ALP 1" on their ballots.

I thought the State Branch of the ALP had apologised for the Family First fiasco of 2004 - and said that all left parties should be wary of such deals in the future?

Obv. the Greens weren't listening.

Fits, you weren't handing out for Patsy Hill in Kilsyth were you? I think most of her 2.07% flowed on to the Liberal and looks like taking out Labor's Dympna 'Nanna' Beard - who is clinging on, but trailing by 0.42%.












only joking. I think most of her prefs went to Dympna ... just thought I'd scare you back into the fold.

Fingers crossed for Dympna though.

Fop,

The massive, often ignored and critical difference between Labor's preference negotiations for '04 and the the Greens' in '06 is absurdly simple. Labor preferenced FF in order to take third senate spot for Victoria (which obviously didn't work), never imagining for a second that an amazing set of preference flows would bring Family First within a country mile of taking a spot.

On the other hand, the Greens in '06 have dealt with the devil to increase their chances of taking Melbourne from Bronwyn Pike (which also hasn't worked), KNOWING FULLY that the decisions they have made on preferences could deliver (and have) seats to Liberals in the eastern suburbs.

In other words - Labor's preference deals resulted in a horrible accident, while the Greens are guily of engaging in an act of calculated bastardy. While it's true that there were no direct preferences given to the Libs, it is equally true that choices made on the design of their How to Votes have delivered seats to the Libs.

As for the performance of the Greens, it looks as if first preference votes have actually gone backwards (albeit only slightly) from 2002, which in an election in which climate change and water were key features of debate is diappointing at least. In the upper house, it may be worth reminding readers that any gains by the Greens in the upper house would not have happened without Labor's historic and progressive restructure of the Legislative Council.

I've got a lot of time for the Greens, but the twin implications that a) they are somehow beyond grubby backroom politics and b) performed outstandingly at this election do not stand up to scrutiny.

ps - Fits you are obviously not a card carrying member of the ALP.

There is a rule about campaigning for candidates runnning against ALP endorsed candidates.

But the punishment is being whipped with a wet hankie by the ALP disciplinary tribunal - as they do for branch stackers in the western suburbs.

No Anon, I'm not. Though that wet hanky whipping sounds like a nice evening in.

I had lunch with Robert Doyle (and others and no it wasn't a Liberla party thing) ;ast Friday- and he's a/ funny b/ warm in person.

How he managed to look the opposite on the Teev is beyond me...

thomasr
PS you're too anything to be anything.

I think the main objective of the left should be to remove the Howard Government and I think there are great failings in the way this has been undertaken. I do not wish to bash the Greens because if the left really had it's shit together this would not be necessary at all. Though there is a large misconception that the Greens are purely idealistic and somehow above the politicking aspect of politics. This is not true in anyway at all! (though not so long ago I truly believed they in-fact were as I have been a member of the Australian Conservation Foundation and formerly Greenpeace for many years and regarded the Greens a close ally).

I witnessed at the last federal election (2004) a Greens candidate distributed a campaign letter in Vietnamese (language) saying that their candidate was in-fact endorsed by the Labor candidate (the Labor candidate is personally very popular with the Vietnamese people in this area) and a vote for them would aid the Labor candidate. Clearly exploiting their nationality and difficulty understanding our electoral process. When challenged on this the Greens claimed this was a translation error.

Other than that I have witnessed at local government level the Greens with paid advertising in local newspapers, saying they will not do preference deals, when they had actually done a preference deal with The Labor Party. Then on election day find that they registered two how to vote cards and chose on the day to hand out only the card that preferences the Independent card carrying Liberal candidate (they had done two preference deals, though only honoured the one with the libs) This dramatically improving their electoral chances by ensuring first preferences from both major parties. The bittersweet pill they had to taste on the day was that the Liberal candidate also submitted two how to votes and fucked the Greens over on their deal. Which ensured that a council that was formerly a Labor/Greens council is now a Liberal council.

Australia will always be a two party system and there is only two options Labor or Liberal that will take office. For the Greens to be the third force in Australian politics this would take (at best) considering that swings to any political party seldom exceed 5 or 6 percent in any election. That it would take at least 21 years of maximum success at every election and very nasty private preference deals with the devil for the Greens to obtain federal office.

This only realistically leaves the ALP that can defeat the Howard Government. The Greens have a valuable service to balance the debate, though not to win elections. This fails to aid the left.

At the current state election high profile Greens endorsed Liberal policies and did in-fact do a split ticket preference deal in 24 lower house seats (Half their ticket with Liberal preferences and the other half Labor including a first preference for Ted Baillieu in his seat) Considering a lower house majority is the house that decides government, this kind of deal clearly aides the election of a Baillieu Liberal Government.

The Greens did threaten an injunction over ALP material that had a picture of Ted Baillieu in the Greens triangle, though would not go through with it. In going to court they would have to admit the dirty preference deal with the Libs. If the ALP has lied then why not head off to court, there is noting to loose.

This deal will be a cross on the Greens back in the future and has already cost them success in this election. If they didn't try and fight dirty, they probably would have coasted into Melbourne and Richmond with the balance of power in the upper house too.

Oh big waaaah to the greens-haters!

You've missed the big flashing enormous thrusting point of Fop's comment - that this kind of nastiness between the Greens and ALP is a big waste of time, and it would be far better directed toward common enemies.

As Jimmy confirms, there were no direct preferences from the Greens to the Libs in any seat, and it was completely misleading of the ALP gaggle to make that claim. A shame that the trade practices act offences for misleading and deceptive conduct don't extend to political parties.

Though, by the amount of corporate donations the major parties receive, there is a fair argument that they should come within the definition of "trading corporations".

The Greens probably did talk up their prospects a bit much though - particularly in an election where they were getting kicked from every direction. But it is clear now that there is a good solid 10% of the vote which is consistently Green, and that electorates like Melbourne are going to be marginal ALP/Greens for some time to come. Not too shabby at all for a minor party.

As for the ALP apologising for delivering the Assemblies of God / Family Fist into the Senate - haven't heard that one before! And it certainly didn't stop the Victorian ALP from preferencing the Shooters & Loggers party in this election.

The ALP did not run the Anti-Green "ooh they are evil doing a deal" stuff in Richmond - the local campaign refused to do anything negative. They got a 3% swing to them and secured the local Labor Left MPs position.

Jimmy, you're right there is a massive difference beteen the what the ALP did in '04 and what the Greens did. The ALP did a very silent preference deal that fooled many people into inadvertantly electing a complete fuckwit into Parliament. I'll agree with you that it wasn't their intention, but their intention WAS to steal the seat from the far more ideologically like-minded and far more worthy Greens candidate, David Ristrom. In doing this, they took a gamble of preferencing FF and that gamble bit them in the arse. Many ALP supporters were seriously pissed off that they'd trusted the ALP to do a preference flow that followed their ideologies and platforms. This is pretty much the definition of grubby politics: compromising your party's ideology just to get someone elected.

On the Greens' side, they didn't make a preference deal at all. They simply chose not to preference either party in some seats. Did they do this not to raise the ire of the Libs who would otherwise be preferencing them in inner seats? Most likely. But they haven't disingenuously directed votes to the Libs. Voters aren't so stupid that they can't make up their own mind in outer seats about which major party they wish to preference. Most do this despite what HTV cards say anyway. "Hmm, who is this Liberal party that the Greens have not preferenced, but not condemned, either? I better vote for them!" - that's a pretty unrealistic scenario.

In 2004, thousands of ALP voters unknowingly preferenced FF where they otherwise wouldn't have. In 2006, thousands of Greens voters could vote for whomever they wanted. If they did vote for the Libs, it was because that individual voter made a conscious choice to do so. Not because it was endorsed by the party, or because they were duped into it.

I'm not completely defending them on this one - I think they either should have provided an ALP-preferencing HTV or not provided one at all (as they did in some seats). But to equate what they did with what the ALP did in 2004 is unfair.

As a former Greens member, I've seen how the party works from the inside. It's not perfect. It has its fair share of dickheads, nuts and idiots (and yes, Fits, the party is acutely aware of an image problem with some people at polling booths. They go so far as to recomend to volunteers that they dress up a bit and provide a clean image for the party. Unfortunately, idiots will take this to mean that they should don their favourite novelty tie. It's still a small party, and they pretty much have to take whatever volunteers they can get). Sometimes they do some stupid things, and they're still finding their feet in many ways. But ultimately, the inner workings of the party in how they operate, preselect candidates, and forumlate policy and pretty transperant and honest. They're largely a pretty good bunch of people trying to stick up for the enviroment and social justice.

Sorry, I know I should be concentrating on the in-depth political discussion going on here, but I can't get past some strange-o just coming up and touching you on the face...

Greens: blah blah blah

Reds: blah blah blah

At least nobody here sold their vote for 55cents on Ebay.

Shame on you that person... I know where you live. The AEC should raid your squalid little hoval.

"...but their intention WAS to steal the seat from the far more ideologically like-minded and far more worthy Greens candidate, David Ristrom."

Steal?

As a card-carrying ALP hack, I'm still willing to admit that the deal with FF was appalling and should never be repeated (not least because the ALP Senator we were trying to save is an anti-choice bitch), but steal?!

No. It was never anyone's to be stolen.

Anonymous,
Don't belittle my mother's achievement of 2% of the vote in an electorate that has a margin of 0.4%. I didn't hear Dympna Beard complaining when my mothers preferences helped her recover from a 4% difference on the primary vote to get within that 0.4%. She never expected to win at all, she ran primarily because there are no real options when you vote - it's choose between one dickhead and another.
Secondly she wanted to capture some of the protest vote (big in the easten suburbs due to the Eastlink thing) and have the preferences directed back to Labour as opposed to Liberal and was pretty much running a one woman campaign. Do you think your vote-card handing-out efforts single-handedly managed to help Labour to 2% of a marginal electorate you smarmy cunt? People like you are what makes big party politics so appalling.

Many people (esp. in the suburbs) don't vote for smaller parties/independents simply because they don't understand the preference system and don't want to 'waste' their vote. Hence there are very few independents running these days (I think maybe 3 or 5 metro this year) and I for one think she did a fucking amazingly good job considering all of things that were up against her. And if you want to say anything else against her I'll come to your house and box your ears.

Oh yeah and thanks so much for helping out Fits, she started crying when I explained to how you came to . Of course that night she started crying when there was no more red smarties left but it was well appreciated... Cheers!

duckmysick ... your mum has chutzpah!

Ms Fits ... I thought 'being taken care of' by a fireman complete with uniform, big boots and shiny helmet (!) was on your 'to do' list?!

Duk.

What a shit post that was Ms Fits...didn't like it. You should charged the fireman with assault. I fucking hate firemen I hope they burn.

And as for politics...well maybe how does get fucked sound? The sun is going to blow up in 2 billion years and wipe out all trace of man. And in the next 50 years most of my days will be hijacked by the prevalent protestant work ethic and status anxiety bullshit that pervades even the most secular fucking system in this fucking cunt of a god forsaken hell hole. I fucking hate you all and remember, the only thing standing between you and a mass grave covered in a blue tarp is the fact that the courts and police are in operation. Ok!? Fuckin die. If I ever get cancer I am going to take you all with me.

And then we'll be together forever, Anon. All cosied up in our mass cancerous grave. What a lovely thought.

I often wonder why we need drugs. They take away the reality of our lives and I don't think that's all together a good thing.

Until I read anon at 5:58pm....

First I should say to davethescot's observation lends truth to the phrase "Politics makes for strange bedfellows."

Second, Fits, I'm truly disappointed that the fireman was so subtle with his flirting. He could have at least gone with the always* effective "Hey, hottie, howz 'bout I take out my hose and put out yer fire." That would make any lady swoon.

duckmysick I voted for your Mum after a lovely chat at Mooroolbark station one morning, she was well informed and most importantly not a dickhead. Damn, if I'd know Ms Fits was in the area I would've handed out some cards myself.

I was handing out for the Greens on Sat and it was fun.
The DLP bloke abused me, so I asked him, "Is this because the greens would give gay herion to all children?"
"Yes"
Clearly the bloke didn't get sarcasm.

At the 2004 Fed election, a very nasty old bag with zimmer frame was screaming at the ALP how to vote guy.

His response, as she slowly made her way into the booth, was as follows.

"I hope you fucking die before you get to vote you old cunt".

Is this too harsh or entirely justified?

All of you...I want you to know something. I don't like you. I would kill you if I had the chance and could get away with it. You are all motherless cunts. Sister's Cunt! I wish I was there where you are I would THROW ACID IN YOUR FACE!!! Fuck.

I want you to know I am going to Tibet for seven years and will not be posting comments anymore. So fare well.

Apologies, Anna, poor choice of words. My point: it was anticipated that Ristrom was going to pick up the seat (and indeed he got a much higher primary vote than Fielding) and the ALP did the preference deal to make sure this didn't happen.

gay heroin to all your children - gold.

These comments are really getting out on the fringe.

A couple of random observations here:

- an upper house preference deal (a la Fielding / Family First) is much worse than a lower house preference deal (and again, the Greens didn't preference the libs in any case) because of above the line voting, which means the votes flow around according to the preferences in a truly ruthless way. In the lower house, the preferences are just a suggestion on a piece of paper and don't count so much.

- The first anonymous doesn't seem to realise preferential voting means 99% of the time you don't waste a (lower house) vote by voting for an independent or green, because your vote will usually flow in full to the ALP as long as you've put them above the Libs/Nats. I've always thought explaining how preferential voting works should be a more central part of the strategy of minor parties.

- Let's not get too excited about the State election result. I'm a long time anti-Liberal voter, and this has only been reinforced by the fact that post-Hanson the Federal Libs completely aligned themselves with the forces of darkness. So I'll always favour the ALP. But let's face it - the State government hasn't really been much chop the last few years. Take away Baillieu's stupid proposal for a new dam (and general plonkerness) and frankly there wasn't really any particualr reason to prefer Bracks to him. So fight the Federal Libs with all our might, but let's not let the barracking get too mindless at State level. My main feeling on the night was sadness the Greens didn't get up in my seat (Melbourne).

To all you muddle headed Greens who posted above.

1. The Greens Statewide HTV did not have split tickets - it directed prefences to Liberals in 8 seats ith no other option.

2. The ALP deal with FF was dumb and I was horrified my vote helped elect the Jesus Freak however the intent was not to "steal a seat" from the Greens but elect a thrid Labor Senator.

3. Every dollar and every hour we spend beating you on the Red Maps is one less hour and one less dollar we have to beat Liberals. Which after all is the point of the exercise.

Go fight some Tories and you can have some cred.

"Every dollar and every hour we spend beating you on the Red Maps is one less hour and one less dollar we have to beat Liberals. Which after all is the point of the exercise."

Very true. So why the fuck did you concentrate your big guns in the last week of the campaign on attacking the Greens, when there were marginal Liberal seats to fight for?

"Go fight some Tories and you can have some cred."

We are. It's you who's in bed with the ALP Right.

Fuck you ALP. Fuck YOU. That god fearing lying cunt Rudd on lateline the other night could not keep a straight face when asked to pledge support for his leader. Outright lied to the cameras. What a churchie fucking CUNT. Greens have my vote in 2007 already. What a sad fucking shithole of a story. A fucking lousy CHURCHIE is going to lead the ALP. And it WILL happen you cunts. The world is over.

FUCK!!!!! I FUCKING HATE KEVIN RUDD!!!!!!!! FUCK!!!!! ARRRRGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! FUCKING MOTHERLESS CUNT!!!!!! I HOPE SOMEONE THROWS ACID IN HIS FACE!!!!!!!! FUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKKK!!!!!!! HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE KILL KILL KILL FUCKING CHURCHIE CUNT FUCKING CHURCHIE CUNT!!!!!!!!! HE EVEN HAS A SECTION 'FAITH' ON HIS WEBSITE!!!! FAITH!!!!????? FAITH, KEVIN? IS THAT SO YOU CREATIONIST FUCKING SCUMBAG...YOU DELUSIONAL FUCK!!! YOU EXPECT MY VOTE WHEN HONESTLY THINK THE CREATURES GOING TO THE POLLS WERE CREATED IN SEVEN DAYS YOU FUCKING CUNT SCUMBAG CUNT. YOU DISINGENUOUS COCK SUCKER!!!!!! COCK!!! SUCKER!!!!! YOU ONLY DEDICATED YOUR LIFE TO PUBLIC LIFE BECAUSE YOU ARE CONVINCED YOU POOR DEAD DADDY IS LOOKING DOWN FROM THE HEAVENS MAKING SURE YOU DON'T SCREW UP AND BURN IN HELL!!!! WELL I WILL TELL YOU SOMETHING CUNT!!! AND THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE!!! A CUNT!!!! THE ICE IS MELTING RIGHT UNDERNEATH YOUR FUCKING CRUCIFIX WEARING FUCKING FEET YOU COCK SUCKING MOTHER FUCKER!!!!! OH GOD I FUCKING HATE YOU!!!! IN THE NEXT TWELVE MONTHS YOU WILL SEND THIS COUNTRY'S HOPES BACK TO THE FUCKING DARK AGES!!!! LEADERS ON BOTH SIDES RELIGIOUS SCUM 2007 COSTELLO VS RUDD BATTLE OF THE HILLSONG CHURCH KEYNOTES!!!! YOU FUCKING SCUM CUNTS I FUCKING HATE YOU!!!!!! FUCK!!!!!! IF I HAD IMPUNITY!!!!! YOU BETTER FUCKING BELIEVE IT MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!! ARRRRRGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! FUCK THE STATE ELECTION YOU CUNTS THAT IS JUST A POINTLESS APPENDAGE THAT CONTROLS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU ARE IN A HOSPITAL BED, IN A POLICE CAR, OR AGED 5 - 18 BEHIND A SHITTY LAMINEX DESK!!!! YOU CUNTS!!!!! FFFFFUUUUCCCCCKKKKK!!!!!!!! I WOULD VOTE FOR A SECULAR GAY ANY DAY!!!!! BOB DOWNE FOR PM!!!! FUCKING CHURCHIE CUNTS HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP FUCKCKCKCKKCKCKC AND PS FUNNY AS FUCK THAT COCKY FAGGOT CUNT HOLDING LOST POLICE!!!! SUCK MY DICK YOU OVERACHEIVING CUNT!!!! ARRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!! KILL MURDER DEATH KILL MURDER DEATH KILL MURDER DEATH KILL JOHN SPARTAN

FUCK!!!!! I FUCKING HATE KEVIN RUDD!!!!!!!! FUCK!!!!! ARRRRGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! FUCKING MOTHERLESS CUNT!!!!!! I HOPE SOMEONE THROWS ACID IN HIS FACE!!!!!!!! FUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKKK!!!!!!! HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE KILL KILL KILL FUCKING CHURCHIE CUNT FUCKING CHURCHIE CUNT!!!!!!!!! HE EVEN HAS A SECTION 'FAITH' ON HIS WEBSITE!!!! FAITH!!!!????? FAITH, KEVIN? IS THAT SO YOU CREATIONIST FUCKING SCUMBAG...YOU DELUSIONAL FUCK!!! YOU EXPECT MY VOTE WHEN HONESTLY THINK THE CREATURES GOING TO THE POLLS WERE CREATED IN SEVEN DAYS YOU FUCKING CUNT SCUMBAG CUNT. YOU DISINGENUOUS COCK SUCKER!!!!!! COCK!!! SUCKER!!!!! YOU ONLY DEDICATED YOUR LIFE TO PUBLIC LIFE BECAUSE YOU ARE CONVINCED YOU POOR DEAD DADDY IS LOOKING DOWN FROM THE HEAVENS MAKING SURE YOU DON'T SCREW UP AND BURN IN HELL!!!! WELL I WILL TELL YOU SOMETHING CUNT!!! AND THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE!!! A CUNT!!!! THE ICE IS MELTING RIGHT UNDERNEATH YOUR FUCKING CRUCIFIX WEARING FUCKING FEET YOU COCK SUCKING MOTHER FUCKER!!!!! OH GOD I FUCKING HATE YOU!!!! IN THE NEXT TWELVE MONTHS YOU WILL SEND THIS COUNTRY'S HOPES BACK TO THE FUCKING DARK AGES!!!! LEADERS ON BOTH SIDES RELIGIOUS SCUM 2007 COSTELLO VS RUDD BATTLE OF THE HILLSONG CHURCH KEYNOTES!!!! YOU FUCKING SCUM CUNTS I FUCKING HATE YOU!!!!!! FUCK!!!!!! IF I HAD IMPUNITY!!!!! YOU BETTER FUCKING BELIEVE IT MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!! ARRRRRGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! FUCK THE STATE ELECTION YOU CUNTS THAT IS JUST A POINTLESS APPENDAGE THAT CONTROLS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU ARE IN A HOSPITAL BED, IN A POLICE CAR, OR AGED 5 - 18 BEHIND A SHITTY LAMINEX DESK!!!! YOU CUNTS!!!!! FFFFFUUUUCCCCCKKKKK!!!!!!!! I WOULD VOTE FOR A SECULAR GAY ANY DAY!!!!! BOB DOWNE FOR PM!!!! FUCKING CHURCHIE CUNTS HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP FUCKCKCKCKKCKCKC AND PS FUNNY AS FUCK THAT COCKY FAGGOT CUNT HOLDING LOST POLICE!!!! SUCK MY DICK YOU OVERACHEIVING CUNT!!!! ARRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!! KILL MURDER DEATH KILL MURDER DEATH KILL MURDER DEATH KILL JOHN SPARTAN

FUCK!

Wow! The anon-freaks are out in force.

Anon 5:58 and 10:53 - you especially seem to be a particularly weak dog.

Well, I guess Kevin Rudd isn't everyone's cup of tea, is he?

Anonymous at 1:56pm who thinks that "The Greens Statewide HTV did not have split tickets - it directed prefences to Liberals in 8 seats ith no other option." Please have a look at the actual How to vote here:
http://www.vic.greens.org.au/2006Election/how_to_vote

On the split tickets, it lists one set of preferences down one side and the other on the other side. Is it the fault of the Greens that you have trouble reading the how to vote card?

Perhaps the design could have been better - but it is clear in black and white - in the small number of seats where they had split tickets, the Greens left it up to voters to preference either ALP or Libs.