Reasons you will hate me

Hilarious! You should send your eight-point response back to brian.brown3. I'd love to hear what he'd say ...

People usually never bother sending me this stuff because they just know i will break the chain and KILL A CUTE ANIMAL / CAUSE THE DEATH OF A SMALL CHILD / HAVE BAD LUCK FOR THE NEXT 546468435752 YEARS etc
I figure i have about 137 lifetimes worth of bad luck so why bother complying now.

It's nice to know that there's no need for propaganda poster art/subliminal warmonger films/advertising and the like now. Group emails have taken that responsibility away from the government.

or....wait...

Maybe this IS from the government? Maybe group emails are a new form of insiduous propaganda?

*looks nervously over shoulder*

I'm more scared than ever now...I think I want the posters back.

So it's YOUR fault people are dying over there, dxxxx.





Thank fuck we've finally got someone to pin it on.

Good on ya, Dxxxx. I hope you're feeling proud of yourself. All those poor kittens.

Yeah, but in the very next shot on that roll of film, the soldier actually picks up the kitten and bites it's head off.

Just ignore it. These bastards won't go away, but we don't have to help them, either.

Sorry, I think I'm in a bit of a bad mood today.

Kittens schmittens!!

MUHAHAHAHA!

The kitten was photoshopped in later, the original was a severed head. True story.

Breaking chain letters is my hobby and I just loved tossing them in the bin in front of the people who gave them to me at high school.

Well, you naysayers saying nay, I've now changed my mind. HOW CAN ANYTHING BE WRONG IN IRAQ WHEN SOLDIERS ARE PATTING CUTE KITTENS. I apologise to Messrs Bush and Howard for being previously rather sceptical of their motives and competency in carrying out the war. I hadn't realised kittens were being petted.

THIS IS THE MOST CONVINCING EMAIL FORWARD I'VE READ SINCE THAT SQUIRREL/GRASSHOPPER FABLE TURNED ME INTO A RIGHT-WING ANTI-TAX CAPITALIST.

ps Awwwwww.

I'm thinking that kitten stroking gentleman isn't dressed in a US uniform... Israeli maybe?

Oh, and by the way, I BETTER NOT SEE DELETED, OK? (But if I do, call the ambulance coz I'm probably freaking out)

Is it that hard to think that the soldiers are maybe really nice people? That they do care for animals & small children, and perhaps HATE what they are doing for a living, but because of what they do, they can't really just quit?

Do you ever think maybe they are disheartened to the point of suicide?

Do you ever think what they are doing is probably the hardest thing they will ever do in their lives, and find it hard to look at themselves in the mirror?

I hate chain emails, but I also hate people who are very opinionated and stereotypical....

I love the tingle in my spine as I think of the many ways Fate could fuck me up for breaking the chain. So, bring it on Fate, I'm ready to rumble!

good point anonymous
mmm war sucks arse (i imagine) and being over there also sucks balls (i imagine). But loaded chainmails suck balls and arse at the same time, which is not necessarily a bad thing, but in the way i am using it in this case it is.
Even if it is base propoganda i kind of like these photos.
though i think that soldier used his covert sneak tactics to get that close to the kitten. look at its face it doesnt even know he's there. its going to get a shock when his hand makes contact

+propaganda i mean rowowowowow

I'm going to have to agree with the anonymous poster above.

I hate the demonising of soldiers that's going on. They're not all bad guys. My father was a soldier who spent two years fighting in Vietnam, and it really gets me down.

I'm not entering into it too much because I'm exhausted tonight, but yeah - think about the families of these men sometimes. They're not monsters, they're our fathers.

I don't believe I ever demonised soldiers. I have issues both with chain mail and with saccharine images of soldiers petting kittens and kissing envelopes. I don't wish to be forced into waving flags for the war, level-headed goodguys though our soldiers may be.

Anon again:

Ms Fits - the comment "we snuggle em as we shoot em" pretty much made me sick in the stomach. When I look at that soldier holding the little child, I feel teary, I'm sure he is thinking "WTF is going on here, I just wanna go home, I want to hold my own kid".

Giving soldiers a break is not saying you agree with war. "The War on Terrorism" is the worst thing I have seen in my lifetime, yet I really feel for those men that are Mr Bush's puppets out there.

They joined the defence forces with the belief they would fight for a cause that THEY believe in too, protecting their country, etc. Yep, I will agree, the DF's has more than it's fair share of fuckwits, yet a lot of them are people just like you & me. Yet I'm sure they are the same as us sitting back saying "WTF are we actually trying to achieve out of this..."

I also think those photos started to be sent around as part of a bigger email that was titled "photos the media would never print" and was not only photos of soldiers at war......

It keeps me awake at night to think those men over there are going to be treated like the Vietnam Vets were when they returned.... We may not believe in the cause they are fighting for, yet I hope we believe that they are doing the best job that they can fighting for a cause that they don't believe in either. They are people too, and I just hope people treat them right on their return... It is going to be hard enough for them living with what they've been made to do....

Ash.

Anon -


For all your kitten-stroking baby-huggers, there are trigger-happy torture-junkies.


I don't doubt there are some reasonable people serving in the military. There are also some grade-a cockrags. And no amount of adorable chain mails will change that.

Chain mail is idiotic and this one is sillier than most. Having said that, you're right Ms Fits that there are some decent chaps over there. I happen to know one - a mate of mine from when I lived in Georgia in the US. He's in the Georgia National Guard and has already toured Iraq once under sufferance. Think about the name of the outfit he joined - Georgia National Guard. Doesn't exactly sound like an Iraq-invading unit does it? The National Guard is supposed to be just that - not an offensive unit. He did it for extra money on weekends and to help out when there were floods in Macon and such. Now this. He can't wait for his time in uniform to be up. Has no intention of rejoining. But until it is, it's go where The Man sends him or go to jail. I feel for him. And you're right, for the good guys there are also dickheads. But you can say that about any job.

Of course there's decent bloody people in the armed forced – no one was actually denying that. But the saccherine attitude of these images (not to mention the fucking insane belief that these are images "the media would never print") turns my guts fair sour, it does.
War is pretty fucking appalling, no matter how many kittens you pat. Doesn't make you a bad person, just a cog in a bad machine.
As for joining the army to make people safe, I'm sure some people did. Others joined for a lack f anything else to do, to avoid custodial sentences or as part of delinquent rehab schemes.

And it seems to me that the attempted point of this and similar emails is to say "hey, see, the war in Iraq is really OK!", and NOT "See, there are good soldiers!" If that IS the case, it makes the chain mails pretty bloody insidious.

I hate chain letters with a vengeance. Especially the saccharine sweet ones with animated teddy bears, hearts and flowers with sentimental hallmark card poetry wishing you love and all God's blessings.....and then mention as an afterthought what horrible things will happen to you if you break the chain. Fuckers! Who would send that?

Also did you notice the gloves on the guy cradling the child? Kind creepy, No?
Miss O.

That stirred the hornets' nest didn't it?

It's about the email folks - NOT the soldiers!

Is it just me, or do all these saccharine, schmaltzy forwards come out of the USA?

Anyway - here's Billy Connolly's standard response for this kind of thing. Works for me...

Hello, my name is (insert your name here) and I suffer from guilt for not forwarding
50 billion fucking chain letters sent to me by people who actually
believe that if you send them on, a poor six year old girl in
Queensland with a breast on her forehead will be able to raise enough
money to have it removed before her redneck parents sell her to a
travelling freak show. 

And, do you honestly believe that Bill Gates is going to
give you, and everyone to whom you send "his" email, $1000? 

How stupid are we? 

Ooooh, looky here! If I scroll down this page and make a wish, I'll
get laid by a model I just happen to run into the next day! 

What a bunch of bullshit. 

Maybe the evil chain letter leprechauns will come into my house and
sodomize me in my sleep for not continuing a chain letter that was
started by St Peter in 5AD and brought to this country by midget
pilgrim stowaways on the Endeavour. 

Fuck 'em. 

If you're going to forward something, at least send me something
mildly amusing. I've seen all the "send this to 10 of your closest
friends, and this poor, wretched excuse for a human being will
somehow receive a nickel from some omniscient being" forwards about 90 times. 

I don't fucking care. 

Show a little intelligence and think about what you're actually
contributing to by sending out these forwards. Chances are, it's our
own unpopularity. 

The point being? If you get some chain letter that's threatening to
leave you shagless or luckless for the rest of your life, delete it. 

If it's funny, send it on. 

Don't piss people off by making them feel guilty about a leper in
Botswana with no teeth who has been tied to the arse of a dead
elephant for 27 years and whose only salvation is the 5 cents per
letter he'll receive if you forward this email. 

Now forward this to everyone you know. Otherwise, tomorrow morning
your underwear will turn carnivorous and will consume your genitals. 

Have a nice day. 

P.S: Send me 15 bucks and then fuck off. 

PPS: Thanks Billy!

Nothing worse that being tied to the arse of a dead
elephant for 27 years when you've got no teeth.

Have you ever your life on the line for something you beleived in?

I didn't think so.

Anonymous, Vietnam veterans are fucked. Fucked enough that in Australia, even their kids get free psych counselling (which is a pretty scary thought in itself).

HOWEVER, the Vietnam war was OVER in 1975, for the Australians and for the US (who had just secretly been fighting in South East Asia for a good ten years before that, though admittedly it was run by the CIA not the Army before the French asked for help).

Okay, interesting, but what was my point? My point is, the US has not engaged in a single useful or justified military action of their own volition in the entire time since. Can you indicate a time since the end of the second world war that the US acted in defence of their own territory? Nope.

You join the US military, you are a mercenary for hire. They don't even refer to their juggernaut as a defence force, as we do in Australia. So don't make out like these guys didn't know what they were signing up for.

Except the National Guard, who were used in a way that was entirely inappropriate for their designed role.

the last scientician said -

You join the US military, you are a mercenary for hire. They don't even refer to their juggernaut as a defence force, as we do in Australia. So don't make out like these guys didn't know what they were signing up for.

Well, things are different in different countries. Take for example college. Here, you can go there for free - sort of. In the US, you have to take out huge student loans unless your parents are rich as. So one option over there is to actually join the military in order to get your college education. The risk you take is that if the country goes to war, you might be sent. On the other hand, if there is no war, you have your diploma.

Some countries actually have mandatory military service, I was shocked to discover that. I believe Norway is one such country.

It's easy to judge people but we don't know what the situation of the soldiers is or why they signed up. If it was just to get a free education, and they signed up with Clinton in the office and then Bush came to them as a surprise, we can't really blame them, can we?

My dad joined the military to get a University education, too. He went to Vietnam. I don't blame him for that.

Most of the US military don't join for a college education. They are mostly undertrained, over-confident technology jockeys. The simple fact this war is about business, and not terrorism, or freedom, or liberation, or any of that stuff is besides the point. I don't think US soldiers are bad people, but they work for a questionable organisation, of their own free choice.

"Just following orders" hasn't been a useful defence for some considerable time.

Norway, you may notice, don't go running into other countries to protect their business interests, which is why there is no popular resistance to compulsory military service.

"They joined the defence forces with the belief they would fight for a cause that THEY believe in too, protecting their country, etc."

If *they* joined the defence forces believing they were going to fight for a cause they believe in, they were idiots. Joining the armed forces means you are compelled to fight if your government decides to fight - regardless of whether or not you agree with the decision to go to war - and anyone who thinks governments always make good decisions about getting involved in military conflicts is either seriously deranged or very very stupid.

I could be harsh and say hey, at least they're upping their chances of removing their stupid/deranged genes from the gene pool...

First of all, you guys scare me. To think that you have the right to vote, let alone procreate. Secondly, you haphazardly make judgements on things that you know nothing about. These guys and gals are doing their jobs so that you can exercise the freedoms that they protect for you. Do they like what they have to do? Not always, but they do it anyway, because that is what they do. Somebody has to do it. Are you going to take up arms and defend the rights that millions of soldiers, sailors and airmen have died in order to provide a future for their and your families? I didn't think so. You are pathetic. But you have freedom of speech, so it is your right to be publicly pathetic.

Oh, and even though you didn't express this yourself, You are Welcome!
--American Sailor