Reasons you will hate me

Man, that's disgusting. To think that more spawn are going to come from that woman's gene pool.

Damn, I hoped you'd be live blogging the sorry. Just watched the first 10 mins on telly and ran to my interwebs hoping the forums had started kicking.

i'm sorry i read that. i'm sorry that they are fuckwits. i didn't make them fuckwits, it wasn't my fault, i didn't do it, but i'm still sorry.

kev is the man. and he didn't fuck it up.

brendan nelson sounds like he's about to fall asleep mid-speech

oh, melbournegirl, go easy on brendan. he can't spell.

Ahem.

so THAT's why you've been inexplicably joining all those random facebook groups...

What do you want to bet that they've still got their two aussie flags stuck on either side of their car, left over from Australia Day?

Give me a bucket please

Spelling aside, I agree with the sentiments of the aforementioned Facebook group.

what melbournegirl said.

Onya Kev! Onya Australia! Finally!

Squib - probably got the flag stickers alongside another one I've been seeing waaay too often lately. A map of Australia emblazoned with "Fuck off, we're full".

But damnit, I'm proud of my prime minister today and I'm going to splash around in that feeling today rather than descend into despair/horror at the opinions of others. (NB. Mild despair over the taste of others may, however, be unavoidable if my cubicle mate continues to play that god awful music I can hear coming from her desk now. I think it's her form of pissy payback for me streaming the apology earlier while she was on the phone)

Jesus fuck. That is foul* on so, so many levels.

*Fowl? A cheaping fowl?

P.S. There is definitely an inverse relationship between spelling ability and racism.

Hopefully Eliza's pregnancy is the result of inbreeding, as was her mother's before her. I'd hate to think there was more than one family gene pool at work there.

"Cheep Cheep" little chickens!!!!

I could care less about futwicks like the Berry family. Just in to work from standing with about (my guess) five thousand people in Federation Square in Melbourne - for the first time in my 17 years in this country I FEEL PROUD TO BE AN AUSTRALIAN.

Fucking happy days people!

On another note:

I'm currently in Tokyo (yes i am fearful of using the toilet, i do not know what is going to come out of it and do things to me).

You'll all be pleased to know that;
"Australia set to apologize to Aborigines"
has made the front page of The Asahi Shimbun

I was in Martin Place in Sydney. Truly a great moment.

I think this is one of the first times in my life I actually feel proud of my government. It's an odd feeling, but a happy one.

And I'm with Bigger Fish to Fry on this one - having stood in Fed Square wiping away tears and sharing hugs with friends and watery smiles with strangers, and all of us experiencing the same joy in our hearts that at last, the word sorry was being said - fuck, it makes me glad to be alive. Jane Berry and her spawn can, for today at least, just fuck off.

I agree bigger fish to fry - time to bask in the good vibes of a long overdue apology. Berry family - back to the barn now.

If only Knob Nelson had just said "We accept the motion" and sat down, I would have been able to enjoy my Sorry Day fully. But anyway, good one K-Rudd.

I don't know what to say, to be honest. I wasn't expecting it to affect me so much.

It's been a long time since I heard anything form the house on the Hill that pleased me this much. Only to be followed moments later by a horrifying trainwreck of a speech. Which quietly also pleased me, as it showed once more how out of touch with reality the Liberal Party really is.

As for the group, all I can say is, I hope when their friends and family die or suffer, no one says sorry to them.

That is because you, Anon. 10:12, are a knob.

Most excellent work, Kevin!!

I'm sorry that so many who told their stories over 10 years ago did not live to hear the words "I'm sorry" uttered by our Prime Minister.

Sadly my family falls into the 'I didn't do anything' crowd despite my best efforts to educate them to the contrary they refuse to be well informed and show some compassion, this of course confirms the assumption that I was adopted. For my own part I am for the first time in a very long time (I'd say about 11 years) proud of my country and government.

A search on 'sorry' in facebook reveals even more disturbing groups such as "NO I'M NOT BLOODY SORRY & DON'T HAVE ANYONE TO BE RECONCILED WITH!". The posted pictures & related comments are particularly endearing. Oohh.. don't call them bigots though.

Well done Kev. There's good feeling my heart today.

Hey, we no longer have a government that will tolerate, even encourage, the negative stereotyping of indigenous Australians. That is really something to celebrate. Tomorrow I will return to cynicism; today I'm just going to feel pleased.

Yeah, time will tell. But you're right, just enjoy the moment. It feels sweeping and significant and it touched me deeply.

I was at Fed Square, too. Oh, it was so overwhelming, and truly memorable. It feels strange to be proud of our Prime Minister. I'm just beaming, and I refuse to let people like those in the aforementioned Facebook groups and this twit here: http://community.livejournal.com/tv_australia/1194363.html ruin it.

Shamelessly stolen from another forum:

Merely minutes after Kevin Rudd finished delivering an apology on behalf of the parliament of Australia, aboriginal leaders began legal proceedings against parliamentary members.

Having made an apology on behalf of the parliament, it appears as though Mr Rudd has made parliamentarians personally liable for damages resulting from the so called "Stolen Generation". Not only that, but having admitted 'liability' he has impaired their ability to run a defence of "not being responsible".

But that wasn't the worst news for the Labour party. It appears as though the Liberal party will make it through this catastrophe without a scratch. Given the proportion of lawyers (there are more lawyers in the Liberal party, than there are union leaders in the Labor party) in the liberal party, and it's links to high profile legal firms, the Liberal party may not even have to pay to fight these new legal challenges.

So far aboriginal leaders have refused to comment on the amount of compensation sought, with estimates varying from "a million, billion dollars" to simply "a chance to watch Peter Garrett dancing".

What a day, first time in a long time I felt proud to be Australian and great to see decency and humanity back on the agenda. As for those facebooks groups - just proves my personal theory of lesser evolved humans among us.

Well done Kev!

I think the question we need to ask is; Would you want compensation if it happened to your family? I would and I'd support compensation.

To the unforgiving, the Doctor said

"If you don't cut out your resentments, I may have to cut out a part of your intestinal tract."

And this from Pope Kaleus the unnumbered

Not to forgive is to be imprisoned by the past, by old grievances that do not permit life to proceed with new business.

Nice craft work Kevin,I commend you

I too was in Martin Place, crying like a baby, and I too am surprised by this odd feeling of pride in my nation.

I am also overjoyed at how much Brendan Nelson came out looking like the sterile piece of cardboard he is.

Group hug?

Wilson Tuckey's had a few interesting things to say. I remember when I was about 12 my Mum sat me down and had to explain that there were people like Wilson Tuckey in the world that didn't always agree with us, but when I was older I'd be able to look at everything he says and laugh at him.

Today, I felt pleased with my prime minister... I laughed at Wilson Tuckey and other like-minded folks- although my mum didn't warn me about the urge to start punching which tends to bubble up before the sense of humour kicks in

*shares in group hug*

The sorry business seems to be important to indigenous people, so I'm happy they finally got it. I'd rather see real progress in solving the serious problems many aboriginal people face, particularly the ones out of sight & mind in remote communities. I hope Kev's right and that will now follow.

As for compensation, on a case-by-case basis some is probably in order. Though it's tough to know where to draw the line on compo for past sins. And aggressively seeking such measures could undo a lot of the goodwill evident today.

Of course it's important to indigenous folks S.o.K... but as a white 'new' Australian it's important to me too....

It's the first step and today is the day action starts on what will be a very long road to building a proud and dignified indigenous community across the land.

we're off and racing folks.

I'm SO sick of this bullshit argument: "I didn't do anything, so why should I be sorry??"

As in, what happened in previous generations, what my grandparents generation did, has nothing to do with me, so why should I feel any responsibility for it?

If that's true, then stop fucking talking about ANZAC day. It's got nothing to do with me. If some people shot at each other and killed millions almost a hundred years ago - what business is it of mine? Nothing! I didn't pull any triggers. I didn't lie down in muddy trenches. Someone ELSE did that. It's got NOTHING TO DO WITH ME. So I therefore refuse to acknowledge the idea that Australians did anything of value in world wars decades before I was born.

Of course, this argument is just as abusrd as the other. OF COURSE what previous generations did has an impact on the country we live in today. OF COURSE history matters, and not just in an academic sense. And OF COURSE as inheritors of that history we have a responsibility to acknowledge that past and deal with it in an honest way, EVEN THOUGH you and I did not personally drive the trucks that seperated parents from their children. I wish this simplistic dumbass idea could be put to bed once and for all.

That is all. Sorry for the rant. (No wonder I can't get a date, ffs.)

*applauds CJ*

Bigger fish: I certainly hope you're right. My genuine hope is that this day does bring white and black Australia closer together and marks the beginning of an end to the problems afflicting aboriginal Australians.

But my real fear is that instead we will now see a massive class action claim for compensation that will do more to damage relations between the two groups than anything I've seen in my time. An orgy of fees for lawyers, who as we speak are probably drawing up the papers.

On ya kev. The country is recognising that we no longer need to be quite the bunch of pricks that we have and it feels good. The door is closing on the Hanson/Howard era. Make sure that these facebook fuckers and their ilk know it – they are stupid, but they will come around.
JWH is the least relevant person in Australia today. The facebookers and this little collection of liberal wankers who boycotted the apology are close behind: Wilson Tuckey, Don Randall, Sophie Mirabella, Alby Schultz.

ah yes.

in my line of work I spoke to a charming* young lady who suggested that The Office of Housing "chuck the abodigides out of there palaces because thay dont need them. the palaces that the abodigides get shoud go to real ozstrayans"

I kid you not.



*actual definition of charming not applicable

i bet the right-wing, sorry-haters wish their peeps could spell. it's not a good look.

[hugs self]

I should also add that while I have no truck with 'trops', I do support the troops in Iraq. Not their fault they're over there, poor buggers.

Stump of (Lack of) Knowledge Saying sorry does not mean liability under the law. I can say I'm sorry your Grandfather died. This does not mean I have confessed to the murder of your Grandfather. The States are the ones who are at risk of compensation claims not the Federal Government and most State governments apologised a decade ago.

*gladly joins in group hug*

I would commend your argument CJ but I don't usually acknowledge ANZAC day in the conservative sense.

Did anyone else think this whole event seemed to be a lot less celebratory and just a bit depressing? As much as I would like to be overjoyed there's that whole issue of the near genocide of the aborigines and the ongoing suffering in aboriginal communities hanging over everything, but I digress.

Who is for making today the new official date of Australia Day?

I'm considering changing my facebook status to:

Franklin is comfortable with deleting friends that join said facebook group... in fact, already has.

kev and jenny were magical today.

brendan, well, let's just say, i really didn't think anyone could follow through and be as mean spirited as he was, on such a beautifully meaningful day.

the only thing that can come from his shameful response .... is ..... people that haven't had any feelings whatsoever towards the liberal party will now turn their backs on them for a very long time.

I am sorry.

But i think its more than that.
I do not feel responsible for pain and damages inflicted by previous governments, but I damn well feel responsible to ensure it never happens again. Today our prime minister led me to believe he thinks the same.

A. Bolt should go on Spicks and Specks next week, he's hilarious. His whole spiel about how "noone can name 10 Stolen children so none of it really happened" would have to be up there with some great moments in the history of Australian comedy, like when Paul Hogan did Tony Barber. Andrew would be good, they should allow him to go on and get red as a beet while he stupendously puts forward his case while reading from a cookbook or such. he really does get worked up over this issue. Just take a laugh at his pathetic blog, with 6000 posts about not saying sorry. Keep going Andrew Im splitting my sides.

Ah fits, yes what an incredible and unexpectedly emotional morning. Your post highlights the remaining fuckwits with no clue. Unfortunately, my surname is also Berry but I am thankfully no relation to the scum which is the subject of your story. I prefer to be a member of other worthy Facebook groups including "Adam Goodes. Is Good" and "Hot for Marieke Hardy".

I shit you not.

A truly moving day. Dear Leader has done us proud (and wanktard Nelson needn't have bothered).

As an antidote you could join the Facebook Groups One Million Australians Feel Sorry or
SOOOO fed up with flag-wavers, bogans and racists.

I am so proud of our glorious leader! This apology has been decades in the making. Good on Kev for finally saying the 2 simple words.

We all listened to it at school today, it felt like we were huddled around the wireless! And it got us out of 1/2 of maths! Good on ya Kev!

Jesus!

Sorry, I just had to say that.

And I'm even more sorry that these guys appear to be breeding.

A friend of mine is a federal policeman in the NT. He cares passionately about improving the situation for aboriginal people. He has worked there for over 10 years. Although outside his responsibilities he spends 2 hours every night setting crocodile traps to reduce the risk of children being killed. Despite his best efforts he cannot convince some parents to stop their children from swimming in the crocodile infested waters. Children are killed on a monthly basis.

When i questioned him about how the overall situation could be improved, he suggested that the Government was in gross neglect of their responsibility, by failing to remove children from shameful, abusive, incestial conditions. He suggested that the politicising of the “sorry” issue has directly led to authorities being unwilling to intervene, to the detriment of the community.

It’s a good thing that we apologised today. But if this apology prevents authorities from meeting their responsibilities in the future, the shame will continue.

The above post it spot on.

Dont let your white middle-class guilt get in the way of the real issues.

All this talk of the abodigines is distracting us from the big news story of the day: Megan Gale's last catwalk in Melbourne!

j/k

I was in Canberra where public servants were bawling their eyes out, Kevin got a standing ovation and Brendan Nelson got a tiny smattering of confused claps.

[mutters to self, i can never leave it alone. just concentrate on cooking dinner]

to the last anonymous commenter, bar the last megan gale lover -

i don't think anyone who is rejoicing at the fact that rudd has said sorry, in such an impressive and comprehensive way, believes that this is the end, that this has fixed everything or that there is no more work to be done.

my white, middle-class guilt is not getting in my way of realising that changes need to happen and it will be hard, but by fuck, there is hope that it will happen. now. finally.

nobody has forgotten the real issues, least of all the indigenous people. you could see it on their faces in parliament today. but it was a beginning. and there are many that have faith that it will be followed through.

what do we have if we don't have hope.

i'd choose hope over cynicism any day.

enjoy your chops.

I was in the great hall in Parliament House and it gave me chills to feel the overwhelming emotion pouring from people. People on their feet with a standing ovation, tears running down faces all over the place.

Unfortunately it was quickly overshadowed by people on their feet standing with their backs to the screens, tears of anger and clapping to drown out the sound of Nelson's voice rather than spontaneous celebration.

Why, when we just managed to scrape back our dignity, do the libs still manage to ruin any forward motion with their dinosaur agenda?

I'm sad that's what I'll remember most about today, I feel cheated. In the meantime, I just keep looking forward to when it stops smarting and the apology is all we remember.

But where do I get one of these Woman Peroids I have to marry?

I was in Fed Square this morning too. There were points when I couldn't stop grinning, at another I teared up a little. There were boos and cheers and laughs. It was ace. The sun came out as the final applause for Rudd's speech died down. Then Nelson got up and I had to leave for work, so I missed seeing several thousand people turn their backs on him.

It's like waking up from a 12 year nightmare. God, I'm happy.

Fits, I cried in my living room along with everyone else. O perfect, happy day!

My question is: Is it now acceptable to start wearing Australian flag tee shirts because OUR Australia is starting to take shape and THEIR Australia is writhing and moaning on the floor being strangled by antiquated racist schlock?

it's not often i'll use an emoticon, but despite nelson's offensiveness

:-)

If "sorry" makes the Blackfellas happy then it makes me happy but why the fixation on the word? I don't get that.

This is wonderful though. It restores my pride in being Australian after a long, dark, ten years.

I really hope that the sentiment morphs to something thoughtful and tangible from the government. If Kev is worth anything he needs a sound compo programme now. Aboriginal communities are in a dire state. As dire as ever.

Shows how far back in time Howard smacked this country though! The Keating Redfern Park address was superb back in '92. We were hella down with it back then and then things went very, very pear shaped...

is nelson the farther elizer,your mom jane would be happy. hope your kid gets taken by DOCS!

ummmmm

I went to school years ago with Rebecca and she sent me a Facebook request to be her friend.....

I sent her a message tonight to tell her exactly why I won't be her friend.

Thanks for helping me filter out the racists :)

I join the group hug!

What a great day! Lets hope it is the beginning of the way forward.

Oh and saw you on telly the other night.....

Nice one Kevin. Thank you.

For those who want to see the real apology again, you can watch it on demand here : http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/02/13/2161227.htm

And how nice is it to have a Prime Minister that makes it feel friendly to use his first name, rather than a mark of disrespect, (Johnny)?

Lots of stuff to get through, but a very nice start to leadership.

I hope Brendan Nelson chokes on his dog whistle. To equivocate an apology is not to apologise. Shame he had to detract from this noble occasion.
Wilson Tuckey, Don Randall, Sophie Mirabella, Alby Schultz, may be retarded by their neo-colonialist thinking but at least had the decency to stay away. The Pathetic Loser Award for the day goes to...........

*drum roll* .............

Chris Pearce

for his infantile behaviour in Parliament today, look at me! I'm ignoring Rudd's speech and reading a magazine. Look at me! I'm making snide remarks to my party colleagues (why do they look so uncomfortable?). Look at me I'm sitting down during the standing ovation. Its a shame he didn't just fuck off with Tuckey et al.

It seems that each successive Labour Government on gaining office have had to get out the fire hose to wash away the sludge and detritus of their small minded predecessors. Today was a great cleansing first step.

I am disgusted at the backward members of our national community. But I choose to focus on those who supported Kev today, and made me proud.

he did good!

oh, and I second Bomba, Brendan Nelson truly is a jerk.

1. I'm not afraid to admit that I cried this morning.

2. Brendan Nelson is quite the shitfuck, isn't he?

3. Ms Fits, on the JJJ Breakfast Show blog it says your dog's name is "Bog Ellis". (Just while we're on the topic of spelling standards, etcetera.)

Rebecca Connolly I'm sorry your boyfriend has cancer.

Eliza Berry I'm sorry you are fat.

I wish I could share everyone's uproarious joy on Sorry Day. And being far away in London doesn’t have that much to do with it.

Yes, the Rudd government’s apology is a teeny, tiny, itsy, bitsy start to the reconciliation process, but appears to be more geared to allaying middle class, white guilt than do anything constructive for the Aboriginal community. We’ve talked the talk. Great. That’s a small step forward. If we’re serious about improving things for Aboriginal people, then it time we walk the walk and actually take action on indigenous issues.

Eliza's sister is pregnant too-she looks a little closer to term. Go to the group (as horrible as it is) and look at members. There are two pregnant Berrys with very similar poses.

Completely OT, but for the Victorians amongst us, this may be of interest:

http://www.mininova.org/tor/1168551

Polywise, I am a member of the Aboriginal community, and I can assure you that there are plenty of us who see the apology as very constructive, in a symbolic and emotional sense. Of course it is not the magical end of everything, and certainly doesn't solve things such as housing issues, poverty etc but it is has been VERY important to many of us. Because it is a sense of acknowledgement, amongst many other things, and it is a much-needed step of the process of truly solving indigenous issues: the beginning.

Meanwhile, did anyone else see that Tony Abbot thinks that Nelson's speech was "magnificent". Vomit.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/nelson-was-magnificent/2008/02/14/1202760433686.html

I'm going to write to the Kev and Jenny and tell them what a great thing they've done and to congratulate them on bringing decency back to Australian parliament. As for Nelson's speech - what a completely mean spirited thing to do. I too feel like a 10+ year darkness is lifting. A big BOO to the libs - with knobs on.

Why the big deal about saying 'sorry'? Because of the refusal to apologise for all this time.

If little Johnny had apologised when he should have, back when the Government was first responding to the Stolen Generation report, I imagine it would have been well received, but not the huge deal it has become.

Kind of ironic that Johnny's stubborn and mean spirited refusal has created the circumstances for the iconic speech I witnessed today. And in many ways lent it so much more emotional weight.

Which I'll summarise for any who missed it:
Kevin: "Sorry"
Brendon: "Don't forget the war"

Neil, that would be a fine argument but for one thing. The apology yesterday wasn't one like "sorry your grandfather died". It was "sorry we killed your grandfather". Because, er, they did. They even cited case studies. We can argue the points of law and liability for hours. Believe me, compensation suits are being prepared.

Another one of those comments explaining that I have just found you big, beautiful and brash blog.
Delicious humour and insight and best of luck on your journey to Ellisisation... the dandruff is particularly appealling...

I know I'm coming to this late. I've been busy basking in the afterglow. But I just need to add my voice to the many who've cheered at the GREAT thing that Kev o'Sev did yesterday. What a fantastic fella he is. And he just keeps on keeping on. I think I love him.



Oh, and SORRY from me and mine, too.

i had an interesting facebook conversation with one of the dudes who started a group like this....i cee whaty you men bout da sprelling amirite

his replies:

"Listen hear u little fuck, u better hope to god your not in melbourne otherwise I'm gonna track your ass down and fix u up a serving.. who u callin white trash princess!! afraid of someone else's opinion fuckhead!! You dont see me saying to you, Join my group you white peice of trash!, you dont see me forcing my opinion on others as you are right now!!, Fuck off and die u litttle maggot or I will fucking find you, you little fuckin girls dick..look at you man..your a bitch..."

"For starters fuckwit I aint scared of any pussy ball players or abo's for that matter, i grew up in a smallish counrty town with them fucks breaking into our house every second fuckin night and stealing anything that wasnt tide down, Im used to them cunts now.., for seconds I aint peddling or pushing anything, anyone is free to join or leave the event, I didnt even send out invites!!! and here's the clincher, Im not even against anyone saying sorry, although personally I'm not, What Im against is is the compensation claims that are to follow this bullshit, why the fuck should my hard earned tax dollers be given to these guys who lets face it are only gonna piss it up the wall anyway!!!"

"what ever man, you've had your say, It's not like your ever gonna change my opinion or Im ever gonna change yours,... and If you think it's gonna help them to fork out million's of dollars instead of the government spending it wisely on homeless shelters and programs and what not to get them back on there feet then your just as much to blame for this shit as they are..Like I said Sorry sorry sorry, doesnt mean shit to me!, but it aint gonna help to simply throw money at them hopeing the alcohol abuse, CHILD abuse, crime and other bullshit that goes on will simply dissappeer.. and you dont hear them saying help us with shelters and programs, and lets not forget the help they already recieve with housing, more dole money then the avg joe etc, NO you hear them saying WE WANT COMPENSATION!!! Fuck that shit man!!"

his group:

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=8183124314

i'm not a violent guy but i'd gladly change that for this douchechill

i also stopped replying and just kept sending him this link after every reply haha

http://apology.west.net.au/redfern.html

The ignorant rednecks fail to appreciate the perspective of Australian Aboriginals in the same way as the sanctimonious middle class lefties fail to appreciate that of the ignorant rednecks.
Actually pretty sad :(

I'm not only a middle-class leftie, i'm also at uni.

I even have indigenous friends!

Obviously i'm destined not to understand the views of racists. Such a shame.

cunce. The lot of 'em. They should be sorry for being racist, for a start.

Saying sorry is not an admission of guilt, responsibility, or culpability,

Saying sorry is an acceptance of the sorrow you are witnessing in others,

Which is WHY the saying of 'sorry' was ever asked for. Because it isn't such a big thing at all, except that we all witness who is too scared to say it, and realise that they must have pre-existing feelings of guilt in the matter.

Point blank, that has always been the real interpretation among the majority of the indigenous community and most other Australians.

Most Aboriginal persons are experiencing the consequence of the prime minister saying sorry collectively, alike to how most folk feel at Christmas. ie, we got what we wanted from the government for a change, and now . . .

I also went to school with Rebecca and still know her now. I know for a FACT that she isn't a Racist! I know for a FACT that she supported the "Sorry" as she was at my house with the rest of us watching it and celerbrating.

The only thing about the "Sorry" Rebecca was actually against was that she felt it would have been even better comming from the people who were responsible for the wrongdoings and felt that it was to political.

I believe that what you stumbled on was part of a Sociology Assingment that she was asked to help a friend out with.

The other girl was doing a study on how easily peoples oppinions were swayed and she was one of a few friends that was asked to join a group, start out with one oppinion and then change their oppinion halfway through and see what peoples reactions were. I believe she also joined other groups with other topics and did the same. At the end of the 'experiment' she explained to the group what she was doing and made her appologies and left the group.

I know that Rebecca is upset that her comments were taken out of context and miss understood especially by "Spiral Girl" aka Thane Brown (nee Allan) and that she has been protrayed in this light especially as it's not accurate.

I don't think it's fair that you all jump on someone and assume they are a certian way just because someone posted it on the internet! Obviously the 'research' this site owner did wasn't compleatly accurate.

It also surprises me that a group of apparently educated people like yourselves believes everything they read on the internet!

Oh and btw.... for those who made comments on spelling....even the owner of this site spelt Rebecca's name wrong even though her name was printed right infront of him!

Funny, Rebecca didn't mention that when she spoke to me...I'm glad she isn't a racist, but you can see from that facebook post why I would think otherwise

Umm and I'd thank you NOT to reveal my name on the internet, that's why I post anon.... ta very muchly (thankfully you spelt it wrong lol)

Great feeling to hear the apology. It made me proud of my daughter. Her first vote and she got Howard out, Rudd in and the apology said. The compensation is long overdue. We stole their land and their children. We still enjoy the proceeds of that crime. As P. Garrett said nearly 25 years ago:
'The time has come
to say fair's fair,
to pay our rent
to pay our share
the time has come
a fact's a fact
it belongs to them
let's give it back.'
It was genocide. My family took part and some are still proud of it. We have been stuck with these racist nutters since 1788. Just turn your back on them.

"Saying sorry is not an admission of guilt, responsibility, or culpability,

Saying sorry is an acceptance of the sorrow you are witnessing in others"

That's not how i use the word, so it does feel strange to apologize for something that had nothing to do with me.

Does this makes me a racist?

Should i also be apologizing for the latest school shooting in america? I had nothing to do with that either. Should i be apologizing for the deaths? Does this make me a pro-gun nutcase?

Fuckin' little runners! The Howard generation will be the death of Australia. White middle-class privileged shit-eating fucktards!

Anyone also notice they couldn't even get the red strike to go *over* the word sorry in their big red 'no' logo....so very sad....

Saying sorry is not something I endorsed or supported.

But fools like those in the facebook make it damn hard to support a more conservative line. Come to think of it the centerist position of K07 makes it damn hard to support conservatives.

interesting, particularly coming from the auteur of lol aborigines