


Third course.
Last night a friend of mine asked me to help take his rather shy and bookish brother out for a low-key 21st birthday dinner as the kid is a medicinal chemist who needs to be shown how to have a good time. This was okay by me as I got a free meal and some nice company and besides which I'm generally inclined to dine with young men as it is without promises of ten courses and a bouquet of flowers to sweeten the deal.
All was going well with plenty of entertaining talk about biochemistry and DNA strands until the conversation inevitably veered towards the day's exciting news and the evening suddenly went awry:
Me: So who did you vote for?
Him: Liberals!
Beat.
Me: Are you joking?
Him: No.
Me: ...why?
Him: Free public transport for students!
Beat.
Me: Is that it?
Him: Yep!
Me: You voted for Ted Baillieu solely because of free public transport for students.
Him: Yep!
Me: What about his other policies?
Him: (shrugging) Anything to do with free public transport and I'm there!
Me: What about if Hitler had offered free public transport for students, would you have voted for him?
Him: Probably!
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This exchange raised three issues for me:
1. I have realised now that I am a polite soul who will continue to make charming and whimsical small talk with someone at dinner even though I am privately entertaining thoughts about lunging across the table and stabbing them with a lamb skewer.
p.s. Liberals - I may be polite but I still won't fuck you.
2. It's truly appalling to me - and it shouldn't be; I am just a naive moron - that votes are still won and lost via Hollywood promises. I hope our Kevin's ready to offer free hand shandies to socially awkward medicinal chemists; the guy will fucking cane it.
3. The 'who did you vote for' question raises its head again. Seems a perfectly natural line of query to me, and our young innocent was perfectly happy to answer in between bites of felafel. Was I breaking social rules by just coming out and asking directly? Were we better off not knowing each other's political preferences, thereby continuing the rest of the meal in oblivious bliss? Do you think I can convince him to come to the Good Side if I buy him tea on the restaurant tram?
340 days til the next election.
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Only provided the restaurant tram is travelling somewhere and you can get there for free...
I don't think you need to buy him a whole cup of tea. Sounds like a tram ticket is enough to get him to cross to the other side.
He was a bit offensively easy to sway, wasn't he?
I dread for the future of this country, I really do.
"1. I have realised now that I am a polite soul who will continue to make charming and whimsical small talk with someone at dinner even though I am privately entertaining thoughts about lunging across the table and stabbing them with a lamb skewer."
Hahaha x 324982541. This made me 'lol'
Gawd you're nice, Fitsy. Oh & yes, the future of Aus is how do you say, fucked! I remember you saying something about Ted's moronic behaviour & people taking a liking to him. How fucken true!
Free transport, for fuck sake. The false promise of free transport will get you votes. God i'm so fucken pissed of right now.
Oh & i wanna congratulate you on delving straight into politics. Fuck making small talk, err pass the salt codswallop.
Stay real, Fits.
Peace
My best friend voted Liberal. I voted Labor, as always, and I have no intention of ever voting for another party.
But it raised a question in my mind of why it is that two people who are so different can get along so well. We don't talk about politics, mainly because she believes I'll end up striking her over the head out of protest for the way she votes, and the fact is, I believe as a Labor voter (ie: because lefties are highly superior) I have the right to inflict pain on anyone who chooses to vote for right wing shits.
But I've thought about it, and to be honest, I think I've actually reached the point where I can respect her decision. I don't like it, I'll never like it, but I think it's good that we live in a society where people with opposing points of views can get along. Even if they only get along because they don't talk about those views in front of each other.
Despite this, I still have a deep seated anger towards her, and only now with yesterday's good news do I finally feel the steam has stopped pouring out of my ears.
don't worry ms fits, there are still subversives amongst us. i have a long-standing promise to all friends that either vote liberal or don't vote that i'll creep into their home in the middle of the night and piss into their ear while they sleep.
so far has worked wonders, although i'm not suggesting it for everyone, and can see how it is more of a bloke thing. you know, accuracy-wise.
I feel your pain.
I specified in my share accommodation ad that I wanted to live with a leftie and my shit of a flatmate came out as a swinging voter (read - Howard supporter) about a month after he moved in.
Now I cant bear to be in the same room as him!
I think he sometimes goes and fucks a fat chick, but he never brings her home. And one day he jacked his car up, took each mag wheel off and hand washed it, then put them all back on again.
The night before the Labor leadership ballot he told me that he was unmoved by Beazley but would consider voting for Rudd and I thought is this who the Labor Party have to appeal to?!?
Gross!
SAL
It's far more of a concern that someone's vote can be bought for a MAXIMUM (and this is assuming he lives in Gisborne and commutes to the city) of $663.50 per year, including the price of the concession card.
That's right, only $663.50 can buy you the voter of your choice from the good people at Degrees R Us.
Honestly, if I ever sat down to think about "what's in it for me" before I voted... I might have to hang up my enrolment card.
So really all we need to do is throw a huge vote buying fundraiser in order to pay off swingers like my chemist companion? Bags me bake a sponge.
When I was queuing to vote on election day (mental note: never again vote in a split electorate polling place the size of a cupboard), a hapless Liberal leaflet lady was telling three fresh-faced blokes that they should vote Liberal because, as students, they’d get free PT. “We’re not students,” they replied. “And we had to pay for it when we were, so why shouldn’t they?” Overwhelming support from everyone in the queue within earshot (which I suspect was less a hooray for student poverty and more about unnerving the Liberal lady). Silence from the Liberal lady. And then, “Well, they’re also doing a lot to improve child-care?...”
You have to hand it to them, they're flexible as fuck.
They also have very nice vowels. That's right, all of them.
you do know your question is up there in the lady muck etiquette DON'Ts top 3?
talking about sex, talking about religion, and talking about politics. and i think this extends to asking direct questions about said topics.
so, don't ask, and you won't get steamed. give it time, it will become obvious, i think.
but you can misread the signs; i slowly started to think my beloved was a lib voter, and i didn't ask cause i couldn't bear the thought of maybe having to break up with such a lovely man, because of that. it turned out he's not, so i should have asked earlier. so it all depends.
Is this kind of like, Liberal branch stacking?
People get really touchy about the idea of votes being for sale.
I was at a Greens meeting last night and they were discussing the reimbursement issue from the VEC and told me that it was $2.10 per vote. And I said "Really? Bugger. I sold mine for $1.50!" And they just stared at me.
Although that could have been because the joke was (a) badly timed and (b) lame. (It's probably just me who remembers it.)
Anyway.
Most people under 25 have grown up with Howard in power and have not seen a credible opposition leader who is prepared to differentiate themselves substantially for anyone without a passion for politics to notice.
We dont remember Hawke, we barely remember Keating - sad but true. What sticks in the mind is the ALP's complete inability to beat a bunch of fucksticks that most of us hate, basically through being outsmarted politically.
Yes, yes, everyone should have a passion for politics but then again the last 10 years have been a bit like watching Essendon v Carlton for a Collingwood supporter - u are kinda just hoping for injuries and someone to get someone famous' name wrong.
Ive been BEGGING for a reason to vote for the ALP for years but Crean (whining twit who is the ALP equivalent to Kroger), Latham (mentally unstable) and Beazley (lettuce) - no thanks.
Hopefully Krudd will change this and provided he locks away his bible in his top drawer (next to his box of tissues), colour me excited.
just after the '98 election, my colleagues and i sat down and were laughing about who we had in last place on the ticket - one nation or the libs. one of the (genuinely lovely, but not altogether there) members of the group looked quite confused and asked us why we'd given labor preferences over liberal - after all it was the labor party trying to bring in the g.s.t.
........beat
and her whole family voted liberal because of this.
........beat
........beat
it's occasions like this that i wonder why it's compulsory to vote in this country - it'd certainly be interesting to see the result if a) it were only people who were interested and had a clue deciding or b) we could just eliminate the stupid people.
When i was just a little lad Bob Hawk won the drovers dog of an election.
I remember pretty much most of the school standing either side of the the adventure playground yelling either liberal or labour at each other, yep there where some scuffles( fight Fight Fight!!)
and it only concluded because of the bell for the end of lunch.
My point here was there was a percieved difference between the two parties even for us wee'uns at the time.
A major reason the left has been on the edge for so long is that the liberals have painted the picture that we are name calling, squabbling, dreamers. While its fun to read you all having a dig at the liberals(cocktard was new to me), it would be helpful it you all would start defining what you see as a better Australia, not just on a blog but by comumicating it all others around you. Basically get involved and get others fired up as well. I want to live in a fairer and just Australia. Will you help?
"p.s. Liberals - I may be polite but I still won't fuck you."
I think even Liberal voters would like to be in a more exclusive club than that.
Sorry, Anon. It's all or nothing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodwin's_Law
There was thatDutch party a while back who supported
lowering the age of consent to twelve
lowering the legal age for prostitution to sixteen
decriminalising interspecies erotica
decriminalising all drugs
and
FREE PUBLIC TRANSPORT!
fits,
re: your 9.39 response to the 9.34 moron
don't try to explain passion to a conservative.
don't even imply the existence of a heart or concepts that extend beyond 'i' 'me' 'mine' 'property' 'safe' 'white' and 'own'.
"p.s. Liberals - I may be polite but I still won't fuck you."
Where can you buy a t shirt saying "I don't put out for conservative voters" or "I'd rather fuck a spiny ant-eater than someone who voted for John Howard" ?
Sure you must know the answer to this Ms Fits.
I think you could, but should you? Would you want someone that easy to influence, rather than intelligent and thoughtful voters?
a restaurant tram??????
there is a restaurant tram???!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
i want in!
brokenleg,
I'm pretty sure Ms Fits already has a strong line in "fuck off liberals, fuck me lefties" attire - surely that's what polichicks is all about...
Ms Fits:
We had some one come into our office the other day and argue that
Bracks had introduced the IR laws
and
Howard was a Labor politician.
All jokes aside (e.g. what's the difference between Kim Beazley and John Howard? 50 kilos...etc etc) this is very very very troubling.
The Hawke win is my first political memory. There are a huge bunch of voters alive and expressing their preference now who WEREN'T EVEN BORN THEN.
Whither the country? etc. And also, I am a sad old (lefty) fart.
did you think beazley would ever have been PM?
Rudd is doomed. The factions are already taking over - as per usual with the ALP - to decide his frontbench. He'll sneak Garrett in but that's about it. Expect plenty of dolts to keep their jobs. The party needs major reform before it will return to power. Nobody but die-hard lefties will vote for a party run by unions and faction heavies any more. It ain't the 1970s.
Mex,
There is a restaraunt tram, and I was given a 'ticket' by my partner for Christmas some time ago. Unfortunately the waiting list for a weekend is about the same as that for Fifteen so we haven't been yet. My theory is that it is popular because it was on Kath & Kim, not because of the food! I may need to submit a review to We Do Chew Our Food when we finally get there.
http://www.tramrestaurant.com.au/
I once had a friend come out and tell me that he voted Liberal because his dad did. We had a bit of a row about it, but he rang me the other day and said he had bought a painting by one of my favourite Aboriginal artists and that he was changing his voting ways to left because he wanted Aboriginal people to get a better deal.
You see, art really can educate.
groverjones: better you than me, I'm sure my colleagues would agree.
gigglewick, i'l see your old fart lefty and raise you one "old enough to remember the 72 gough it's time campaign old fart lefty"
AND we marched.
AND my dad cried when gough was sacked.
voting hawke in was my first voting experience. all downhill from there actually. along with the geelong football club's efforts since my birth.
He may have been swayed for a day or two, but then another promise would creep up somewhere. He sounds like a bit of a budgie. Give him some cheap bauble, and he would be happy and not give a fark about anything else.
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